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re: DAT: 2017 World Champions Houston Astros offseason discussion: ASTROS ACQUIRE GERRIT COLE

Posted on 11/6/17 at 3:19 pm to
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 11/6/17 at 3:19 pm to
We need a defensive catcher and 2 bullpen arms. Also would sign one more SP of the Morton variety.
Posted by LSUBoo
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Posted on 11/6/17 at 3:23 pm to
Liriano pitched like shite in August, but settled into the role in September.

The main difference was cutting down on the walks... maybe it just took him a while to adjust to coming out of the pen.

It's not a terrible idea, but it's more like a plan B or C.

If Liriano even wants to be a LOOGY... he might be looking to sign elsewhere with a chance to start again.
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
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Posted on 11/6/17 at 3:24 pm to
quote:

SP of the Morton variety.


He's called Jabroni.
Posted by dhav14
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 11/6/17 at 3:27 pm to
I don’t think we have room on the roster for signing a BOR starter. We have 5 starters, a couple of relievers who can spot start and Martes and Armenteros in AAA.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 11/6/17 at 4:01 pm to
Looking at a 28 yo catcher from Cuba.
Posted by JukeLeft
Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 11/6/17 at 4:04 pm to
200k for this Cuban catcher. offense first. Looks like a backup. This is per Jesse Sanchez.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
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Posted on 11/6/17 at 4:07 pm to
I honestly don't mind Liriano as a loogy. He got straightened up down the stretch and despite our reservations had 2 huge loogy outs in the World Series. Give him a full off seasons and he can be adjusted to the bullpen role at a solid level IMO
Posted by dhav14
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Posted on 11/6/17 at 4:17 pm to
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 11/6/17 at 4:22 pm to
Lol Rangers. Do we rebuild or just keep throwing $100 million dollar contracts around?
Posted by dhav14
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Posted on 11/6/17 at 4:26 pm to
I pray they sign Arrieta. 32 year old developing a home run problem in that ballpark? They’d regret it by 2019 if not earlier.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 11/6/17 at 4:34 pm to
Hopefully keep throwing around 100 million dollar contracts
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 11/6/17 at 5:22 pm to
quote:

We need a defensive catcher


Are people not high on Centeno? Not a great backstop but has a great arm and a little bit of pop to his bat as we saw.

Eta: lol nah his CS% is nowhere near what I thought it was... basically bordering on McCann bad.
This post was edited on 11/6/17 at 5:27 pm
Posted by 5 Deep
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Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 11/6/17 at 5:26 pm to
Yeah just feel like whatever we have seen from him is a small sample size and not really sure how he is projected


With the plethora of arms in the rotation, wouldn’t it make sense to try and deal Fiers to a team needing an innings eater? Perhaps include him in something for Brad Hand
Posted by 5 Deep
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Posted on 11/6/17 at 5:29 pm to
How much will Lucroy fetch in FA?



ETA: imagine him and McCann splitting time 50/50 so they’d be always be fresh...not to mention the benefit of them working with our young pitchers
This post was edited on 11/6/17 at 5:31 pm
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 11/6/17 at 5:32 pm to
Rangers are in a weird spot. Beltre ain't gettin any younger odor just flopped after a big contract Hamels started showing his age their pitching prospects haven't panned out and they traded significant minor league assets going all in last two years. Elvis and mazara are solid pieces and Gallo I guess has a role in today's league. They have some pieces that if they hold off the age bug and others have bounce back years then they can be solid but the championship level window may be gone. If you want one more first round exit off into the sunset then they have to pay up otherwise they have to sell off and suck for the near future
Posted by 5 Deep
Crawford Boxes
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 11/6/17 at 5:33 pm to
Stole this from the MLB offseason thread...

quote:

#STLCards have made Lance Lynn a qualifying offer ($17.4 million). They have also granted Trevor Rosenthal his unconditional release. Rosenthal will spend much of 2018 rehabbing from Tommy John surgery and #STLCards did not want to pay his salary during that absence."


But I wouldn’t mind getting him for dirt cheap if possible considering how pitchers can come back stronger from TJ. Look at Greg Holland last season..
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
102331 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 5:38 pm to
MLBTR predicts Lucroy gets 2 years 24 million.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
63413 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 5:48 pm to
I think we will try to deal Fiers and non tender him if we can't
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
102331 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 6:01 pm to
Flyball Fiers makes perfect sense for a club like the Giants or Padres.
Posted by lsusportsman2
Member since Oct 2007
27232 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 6:08 pm to
quote:

How much will Lucroy fetch in FA?


Meh. I don't want him. He was bad this season, and I don't see him getting better anymore.
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