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Darnold: Is this year a fluke or was he just in awful situations before?
Posted on 12/29/24 at 5:53 pm
Posted on 12/29/24 at 5:53 pm
He’s definitely getting paid well after this season, but will he continue playing at a high level moving forward? We’ve seen one-hit wonders before. On the flipside, he was in some dogshit situations with New York and Carolina before Shanahan got a year with him.
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Posted on 12/29/24 at 5:54 pm to Kinderman
Best story in the league this year.
Posted on 12/29/24 at 5:55 pm to Kinderman
Some of both. For geno smithing. Geno was really good a couple of years ago and has been serviceable but very mid since. I could see darnold being similar with a non O’Connell level coach
Posted on 12/29/24 at 5:55 pm to Kinderman
He's always had the talent, just needs a good situation. He's not going to lift others, but in a place like Minnesota he doesn't have to.
Posted on 12/29/24 at 5:58 pm to Kinderman
All I can contribute is: coming out of college I thought he would be an nfl starter for a decade. He’s strong as an ox.
Posted on 12/29/24 at 6:06 pm to Kinderman
he learned playing behind the qb in sf, and listening to kyle shannahan
Posted on 12/29/24 at 6:17 pm to Kinderman
Bit of both
Posted on 12/29/24 at 6:19 pm to Kinderman
Awful situations
Posted on 12/29/24 at 6:25 pm to Blutarsky
He still needs a good coach with him, but I think he was just really young coming into the league. Jets and Carolina did him no favors
Posted on 12/29/24 at 6:28 pm to MasterAbe1
Combination of finally being able to play with confidence and having by far the best receivers he has ever been able to throw the ball to. Now which one is the chicken and which one is the egg is another question.
Posted on 12/29/24 at 6:40 pm to Kinderman
He never had any coaching or development of any kind until he was in SF. High school, college, or pro.
The statistical reality is there will be some mean reversion but coaching matters. The $40M question is how much mean reversion
The statistical reality is there will be some mean reversion but coaching matters. The $40M question is how much mean reversion
This post was edited on 12/29/24 at 6:41 pm
Posted on 12/29/24 at 6:42 pm to usc6158
Just proof that QBs (mostly) can't start from Day One?
Posted on 12/29/24 at 6:45 pm to FightinTigersDammit
I’m convinced coaches like KOC can make any competent QB look impressive.
If I’m Darnold, I’m looking at Cousins and doing whatever I can to stay with the Vikings and KOC.
ETA: Jimmy just quoted me
If I’m Darnold, I’m looking at Cousins and doing whatever I can to stay with the Vikings and KOC.
ETA: Jimmy just quoted me
This post was edited on 12/29/24 at 6:47 pm
Posted on 12/29/24 at 6:48 pm to Kinderman
Props to Minnesota head coach. He’s really good offensive mind.
Posted on 12/29/24 at 6:52 pm to catfish 62
Coaching matters. Experience matters. Wondering if they keep him or let him walk and risk it with JJ, or trade JJ.
Posted on 12/29/24 at 6:57 pm to MasterAbe1
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He still needs a good coach with him, but I think he was just really young coming into the league. Jets and Carolina did him no favors
The Vikings having Jefferson, Addison, Hockenson and AJones should be the biggest incentives to stay.
Trade JJ McCarthy to the Giants.
Posted on 12/29/24 at 6:58 pm to Kinderman
Kinda makes you wonder about those before who were drafted into awful situations but didn’t get a chance in a good situation afterwards to showcase their skills
Posted on 12/29/24 at 7:04 pm to 88Wildcat
I agree. It’s why teams really need to stop reaching for QBs or expecting them to play right away. Some of these guys need to be developed.
Posted on 12/29/24 at 7:08 pm to Sus-Scrofa
Cousins looked like arse before he landed in Minnesota. The one year he's not there, he looks like arse again. I am convinced KOC's system is QB proof. All QBs in that system perform the same.
Posted on 12/29/24 at 7:20 pm to Snek
Cousins was solid in Washington. He took it to another level in Minnesota.
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