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re: Could Babe Ruth & Ted Williams crack a starting lineup in today's MLB ?

Posted on 9/8/25 at 3:47 pm to
Posted by prplhze2000
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Posted on 9/8/25 at 3:47 pm to
Depends on which sports. If you go back to just 70s, quite a few players in many sports would do well today.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 9/8/25 at 3:49 pm to
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He would’ve blown everyone away with 100+ mph high fastballs


No one else had one back then, but he would?

Are you just teleporting him into 1918, and leaving all other variables the same?

If so, that's moronic, as all these types of discussions are.
Posted by Nutriaitch
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Posted on 9/8/25 at 3:57 pm to
Ted Williams could hit in any era.
Posted by Boston Bob
Member since Sep 2025
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Posted on 9/8/25 at 4:01 pm to
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You know Babe swung a 40oz bat, right? You hand him a 32 oz and he can play in any era.


Agree.
People that didn't watch the video don't realize that the OP Question was sarcasm.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 9/8/25 at 4:05 pm to
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You know Babe swung a 40oz bat, right?
That shows more than anything how far below the pitching of today it was back then….

I think elite hitters from back then could adjust very quickly. If you plucked a pitcher and brought them to today they’d be fricked instantly without the ability to grow up with the modern training and education pitchers have
Posted by Boston Bob
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Posted on 9/8/25 at 4:13 pm to
I've seen modern baseball players swinging Babe Ruth's bats.
They laughed and said it was like swinging a telephone pole & that Babe Ruth had to have been freakishly strong.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 9/8/25 at 4:24 pm to
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We have these arguments in every sport. It’s a waste of time.


What do you think sports is? But we still enjoy talking about it.
Posted by InkStainedWretch
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 9/8/25 at 4:28 pm to
He wouldn’t have thrown 100 mph fastballs throwing misshapen tobacco juice soaked blobs that were never thrown out of the game unless they just couldn’t be recovered.

Just like Aaron Judge would only hit 12 or so home runs hitting those balls in parks where the fences were 500 feet away sometimes.

But Skenes and Judge would have adapted just like Ruth and Williams would adapt if they played today and all of them would be elite players.

The problem with these discussions is that people only look at the numbers and don’t consider the other variables.
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
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Posted on 9/8/25 at 4:39 pm to
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If you plucked a pitcher and brought them to today they’d be fricked instantly without the ability to grow up with the modern training and education pitchers have



if you plucked them immediately from then to now, they may have more success than you think.

hitters today are trained to "see" what pitchers today throw.
so a guy from then throwing something different (different speeds, different windups, different breaks, etc.) might actually have success initially until hitters adjusted to them.
because everything about their timing and mechanics would be off at first.
Posted by Nutriaitch
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Posted on 9/8/25 at 4:40 pm to
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Just like Aaron Judge would only hit 12 or so home runs hitting those balls in parks where the fences were 500 feet away sometimes.


I'd have to find it again, but I did a topic here comparing Yankee Stadium of today vs the Stadium in Babe Ruth's day.
even overlayed Judge's 2024 HR spray chart over it.

a ton of Judge's HRs would have been well short of those fences back then.
This post was edited on 9/8/25 at 4:42 pm
Posted by BZ504
Texas
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 9/8/25 at 4:43 pm to
Guys in the past probably played through arm injuries and other injuries at that. Those guys were tough. They would laugh at today’s generation.
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 9/8/25 at 4:45 pm to
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I'd have to find it again, but I did a topic here comparing Yankee Stadium of today vs the Stadium in Babe Ruth's day.
even overlayed Judge's 2024 HR spray chart over it.



found it.

Judge's 2024 Yankee Stadium spray chart on top of late 1920's Yankee Stadium





it's more than the 12 you gave him, but significantly less than the 58 he actually hit in '24
Posted by InkStainedWretch
Member since Dec 2018
4907 posts
Posted on 9/8/25 at 4:47 pm to
The biggest difference would be the ball. Not only did Ruth benefit from them juicing the ball a little bit in 1920, but after Carl Mays killed that dude with a pitch, they started making sure new, clean, white balls were always used. Ruth hitting 29 homers I believe in 1919 off the mushballs they were using at the time was as impressive as him hitting 60 IMO, and is confirmation of his greatness.
This post was edited on 9/8/25 at 4:48 pm
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 9/8/25 at 5:37 pm to
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Guys in the past probably played through arm injuries and other injuries at that. Those guys were tough. They would laugh at today’s generation.
that just means more at-bats and innings went to guys not 100% up for it
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
149491 posts
Posted on 9/8/25 at 7:46 pm to
true, thats why they hit balls 580 feet
Posted by Pikes Peak Tiger
Colorado Springs
Member since Jun 2023
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Posted on 9/8/25 at 7:59 pm to
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Could Babe Ruth & Ted Williams crack a starting lineup in today's MLB


Probably. The hand eye coordination of Ted Williams is a genetic gift. With that and modern training and nutrition, he’d be a .320 plus hitter in any generation.
Posted by Pikes Peak Tiger
Colorado Springs
Member since Jun 2023
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Posted on 9/8/25 at 8:07 pm to
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Yet for some reason, in baseball, some people actually think chain-smoking out of shape alcoholics from 100 years ago were some of the greatest players ever and players today could never do what they did.


why do you think if those guys played today they wouldn’t utilize modern medicine, training and nutrition and NOT be chain smoking alcoholics?

And the reverse can be said of modern players if they payed in previous generations. Why don’t you think they would live lifestyle of the times like the other players of that era.
This post was edited on 9/8/25 at 8:11 pm
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
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Posted on 9/8/25 at 8:26 pm to
His name was Ray Chapman
Posted by SoFlaGuy
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Apr 2020
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Posted on 9/8/25 at 8:35 pm to
Not sure, but I’d take my chances they could with modern training, technology, nutrition, etc.

Not quite Jordan vs LeBron. Jordan by a million.
Posted by WhiteMandingo
Member since Jan 2016
7458 posts
Posted on 9/8/25 at 8:51 pm to
That is the most ridiculous thing I've read on here and that is including the the gameday rant
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