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Complaining about getting your signs stolen in baseball...fair or foul?
Posted on 5/6/12 at 1:23 pm
Posted on 5/6/12 at 1:23 pm
Jamie Moyer is accusing Chipper Jones of stealing signs...Chipper's response
“I mean, dude, we don’t need signs, especially for him. I mean, my goodness, every pitch is 78. Come on.”
When I played, stealing signs and preventing your signs from being stolen was just a part of the game. We never cried about it. We took pride in disguising our signs.
Is this another example of wussification in America or does Moyer have a legitimate gripe?
Update...Moyer called Chipper Jones out during game.
LINK
“I mean, dude, we don’t need signs, especially for him. I mean, my goodness, every pitch is 78. Come on.”
When I played, stealing signs and preventing your signs from being stolen was just a part of the game. We never cried about it. We took pride in disguising our signs.
Is this another example of wussification in America or does Moyer have a legitimate gripe?
Update...Moyer called Chipper Jones out during game.
LINK
This post was edited on 5/6/12 at 1:46 pm
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Posted on 5/6/12 at 1:24 pm to CFBFAN1121
It just reaffirms that Moyer is a huge flaming vagina.
Posted on 5/6/12 at 1:25 pm to CFBFAN1121
He has a legit gripe in the internal sense, with his catcher and/or manager
Posted on 5/6/12 at 1:26 pm to CFBFAN1121
If teams legitimately tried to steal signs, they could do easily. You can figure out a team's signs in an afternoon. In order to make them "unstealable", they'd be too complex to use. There has always been an agreement not to steal signs, provided a team makes a token effort to hide them.
I will note that Chipper didn't actually deny stealing signs in that quote.
I will note that Chipper didn't actually deny stealing signs in that quote.
Posted on 5/6/12 at 1:26 pm to Signature
Eh...I don't like it necessarily but it's part of the game.
Bad arse response by Chipper though
Bad arse response by Chipper though
Posted on 5/6/12 at 1:32 pm to CFBFAN1121
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Posted on 5/6/12 at 1:33 pm to Srbtiger06
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Eh...I don't like it necessarily but it's part of the game.
Yes, but what kind of woman complains about it publicly. The act of publicly complaining about it makes him a huge vagina.
And I agree, Chipper's comment was great.
Posted on 5/6/12 at 1:36 pm to CFBFAN1121
You don't complain. You put one up and in on the next batter after you catch the team stealing your signs; however, Moyer doesn't throw hard enough to do that.
People who have played with Moyer have told me how much of a doucher he is. This confirms it.
People who have played with Moyer have told me how much of a doucher he is. This confirms it.
Posted on 5/6/12 at 1:36 pm to CFBFAN1121
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“I mean, dude, we don’t need signs, especially for him. I mean, my goodness, every pitch is 78. Come on.”
And Moyer is a huge vag for publicly bitching about it
Posted on 5/6/12 at 1:38 pm to Signature
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It just reaffirms that Moyer is a huge flaming vagina.
I wouldn't call him that. Seems like a good guy. Dude runs several camps to help children with close family members who have passed.
Posted on 5/6/12 at 1:38 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
Did Moyer publicly bitch about it or did he just step off the mound and mouth off to Chipper?
Posted on 5/6/12 at 1:38 pm to Baloo
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There has always been an agreement not to steal signs
are decisions like this made in the offseason? do the managers decide? GMs? owners?
Posted on 5/6/12 at 1:39 pm to CFBFAN1121
play to win the game. Learn to hide your signs better
Posted on 5/6/12 at 1:39 pm to bddwolfpack
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Did Moyer publicly bitch about it or did he just step off the mound and mouth off to Chipper?
I consider that publicly bitching about it
Posted on 5/6/12 at 1:39 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
It is part of the game, nothing wrong at all. You can either change signs or hit the next guy and move on.
Posted on 5/6/12 at 1:39 pm to Baloo
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If teams legitimately tried to steal signs, they could do easily. You can figure out a team's signs in an afternoon. In order to make them "unstealable", they'd be too complex to use
I wholeheartedly disagree. Yeah, if you keep the same set of signs throughout the game, they can possibly be stolen.
That's why you change the signs up throughout the game. We'd change the indicator every inning. That throws off anybody trying to steal your signs. Point blank.
Didn't know they had a gentlemen's agreement not to steal signs
Posted on 5/6/12 at 1:41 pm to SlowFlowPro
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are decisions like this made in the offseason? do the managers decide? GMs? owners?
Old people.
Posted on 5/6/12 at 1:42 pm to bddwolfpack
Hate to hi-jack this this thread, but did your girl tell you she waited on me last weekend?
Posted on 5/6/12 at 1:43 pm to lsu31always
That she did
Posted on 5/6/12 at 1:44 pm to lsu31always
Foul. If your signs are easy enough to get stolen, then you deserve it. I personally never peeked at signs as a hitter, but I steal the shite out of the other team's 3rd base coaches signs.
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