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Comparing WC Penalty kicks and college football 2 pt extra points
Posted on 6/29/26 at 7:35 pm
Posted on 6/29/26 at 7:35 pm
I honestly don't like either method in determining a winner in either sport.
But, to break it down, at least in the World Cup, they will play an overtime of regular play to try to get a winner first. But, the penalty kicks from like 15 feet away are just plain stupid. Total randomness of the goalie to guess where to defend.
In college football, there are only 2 OT possessions, from arguably too close, and then its straight to these 2 point conversion attempts.
Not as stupid as the penalty kick, but also not very representative of a full football game and its strategy.
I don't have a suggestion for soccer, other than just keep playing longer.
Maybe reduce the number of players on the field after the first overtime.
In football, I think there's an easy fix...
Eliminate the 2 point garbage, and move the starting position back to at least the 40. Maybe after the first 2 OTs, move the starting possession even further back. Not a big fan of the NFL OT, since there's not always an equal number of possessions
But, to break it down, at least in the World Cup, they will play an overtime of regular play to try to get a winner first. But, the penalty kicks from like 15 feet away are just plain stupid. Total randomness of the goalie to guess where to defend.
In college football, there are only 2 OT possessions, from arguably too close, and then its straight to these 2 point conversion attempts.
Not as stupid as the penalty kick, but also not very representative of a full football game and its strategy.
I don't have a suggestion for soccer, other than just keep playing longer.
Maybe reduce the number of players on the field after the first overtime.
In football, I think there's an easy fix...
Eliminate the 2 point garbage, and move the starting position back to at least the 40. Maybe after the first 2 OTs, move the starting possession even further back. Not a big fan of the NFL OT, since there's not always an equal number of possessions
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Posted on 6/29/26 at 7:39 pm to Archives
That German goalie was totally just guessing.
Posted on 6/29/26 at 7:43 pm to Jake88
Ummm that's all you can do from that distance. Just hope you guess right.
Posted on 6/29/26 at 7:48 pm to Archives
I like your idea of reducing number of players in the ot, similar to hockey
Posted on 6/29/26 at 7:49 pm to Jake88
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That German goalie was totally just guessing.
That was the point. No real skill involved. Unless deception is a skill?
Posted on 6/29/26 at 7:59 pm to Jmcc64
I bet you wouldnt make a single one on either of those goalies.
Posted on 6/29/26 at 8:02 pm to kengel2
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I bet you wouldn't make a single one on either of those goalies.
This. Saying its not the best way to end the game, is much different than saying there is no skill involved. That's just dumb.
This post was edited on 6/29/26 at 8:03 pm
Posted on 6/29/26 at 8:25 pm to Jake88
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That German goalie was totally just guessing
You mean former World Cup and Golden Glove winner*
Posted on 6/29/26 at 8:31 pm to Archives
The original college OT was great / the only change should have been to start from the 40.
Make the offense earn some yards before a free 42yd FG attempt. From the 40, with no yards gained that’s 57yds, which is significantly different than 42. Add in a loss of 2 yards, a false start, or delay of game, and everything changes.
Or if we’re not going to do that, instead of the 1-play 2 point conversion, make it 1st & Goal from the 10, with no FG option.
Make the offense earn some yards before a free 42yd FG attempt. From the 40, with no yards gained that’s 57yds, which is significantly different than 42. Add in a loss of 2 yards, a false start, or delay of game, and everything changes.
Or if we’re not going to do that, instead of the 1-play 2 point conversion, make it 1st & Goal from the 10, with no FG option.
Posted on 6/29/26 at 9:18 pm to Fbohn1
The only time you really need a winner is the playoffs.
CFB had ties before 1996 and it wasn't a problem.
CFB had ties before 1996 and it wasn't a problem.
Posted on 6/29/26 at 9:29 pm to Archives
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But, the penalty kicks from like 15 feet away are just plain stupid.
That's why they do them at 12 yards instead.
Posted on 6/29/26 at 11:05 pm to MoarKilometers
There isn’t a more stressful thing to do in all of sports than having to walk by yourself from midfield in a full stadium with millions watching on tv as you have to make a PK, which you are expected to do as all of the pressure is on the shooter and zero pressure is on the goalie.
Maybe having to hit a putt to win or tie a major would be close, but even then, if you miss the putt you just let yourself down. When you miss a PK you let your team and your entire country down, so the pressure is amplified.
Maybe having to hit a putt to win or tie a major would be close, but even then, if you miss the putt you just let yourself down. When you miss a PK you let your team and your entire country down, so the pressure is amplified.
Posted on 6/29/26 at 11:36 pm to TeddyPadillac
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There isn’t a more stressful thing to do in all of sports than having to walk by yourself from midfield in a full stadium with millions watching on tv as you have to make a PK
Game winning or tying FG attempt with no time left?
Posted on 6/30/26 at 12:13 am to Jake88
quote:just read that he got his start as the German national team goalkeeper in 2010 because the guy who preceded him committed suicide by standing in front of a train
That German goalie
This post was edited on 6/30/26 at 12:13 am
Posted on 6/30/26 at 1:14 am to theCAW
We have lots of trains.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 6:28 am to Archives
Should do 30 mins of extra. If no winner, addituinal 15 min segments with golden goal to end the game.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 7:33 am to Jmcc64
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No real skill involved.
Is that way several players didn't even get the shot on frame? Every four years we have to read nonsense like this
Posted on 6/30/26 at 7:35 am to udtiger
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Should do 30 mins of extra. If no winner, addituinal 15 min segments with golden goal to end the game.
No. After 120 minutes, the players are exhausted, the skill has gone done considerably. A golden goal winner in that scenario will be just as much "luck" as the winner of the PK shootout.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 7:44 am to TeddyPadillac
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There isn’t a more stressful thing to do in all of sports than having to walk by yourself from midfield in a full stadium with millions watching on tv as you have to make a PK,
This is such a stupid comment. Soccer is so gay. So boring, very little action. Games end 0-0. Oh boy. Shrink the field, light the ball on fire, then it wouldn't suck
Posted on 6/30/26 at 7:48 am to whodat22
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Soccer is so gay. So boring, very little action. Games end 0-0. Oh boy. Shrink the field, light the ball on fire, then it wouldn't suck
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This is such a stupid comment
Here’s your attention. You’re so kewl.
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