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re: Colts Coach Tests Positive, Despite Being Vaccinated

Posted on 7/26/21 at 11:11 am to
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56457 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 11:11 am to
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Same way we did with every other virus

24 hour symptom free


So, everything that is being done from a protocol standpoint is wrong in your opinion?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
94993 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 11:13 am to
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So, everything that is being done from a protocol standpoint is wrong in your opinion?
In terms of getting back to an attainable functioning normal environment? Yes

Testing people for viral particles will always show high results. And if you use these results to prevent people from doing things, it will never end
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11091 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 11:14 am to
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But remember…my right to be a selfish prick is more important than the rights of EVERYBODY ELSE to not contract the virus.



Posted by skullhawk
My house
Member since Nov 2007
23014 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 11:15 am to
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The kids are reporting in a few days for fall camp. Times running out. The NFL is getting tough on their players and coaches about vaccination. The Olympics are fanless and athletes have been sent home.

Sounds like we are in for the same song, second verse.



this is self inflicted pain on the NFL's part though. If they came out and said we are not testing vaccinated players or coaches unless symptomatic, no one would push back on that.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56457 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 11:16 am to
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In terms of getting back to an attainable functioning normal environment? Yes



Not only that. By your own statement testing asymptomatic people (vaccine or not) is meaningless because without symptoms they aren't infected and/or spreading the virus.

You'd also have no protocol for someone testing positive who is asymptomatic.

And, those who test positive with symptoms would be able to return to work if 24 hours symptom free.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
94993 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 11:18 am to
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By your own statement testing asymptomatic people (vaccine or not) is meaningless because without symptoms they aren't infected and/or spreading the virus.

You'd also have no protocol for someone testing positive who is asymptomatic.

And, those who test positive with symptoms would be able to return to work if 24 hours symptom free.
Yep, you got it

The vaccine is available now. It is time covid is treated how we have treated every other virus. At some point, that has to be done.
This post was edited on 7/26/21 at 11:19 am
Posted by medtiger
Member since Sep 2003
21662 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 11:39 am to
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You'd also have no protocol for someone testing positive who is asymptomatic.


There's an old adage in medicine...don't order a lab test unless you're looking for something specific. Because eventually you'll find something.
Posted by A Menace to Sobriety
Member since Jun 2018
29001 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 11:48 am to
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We wouldn’t be getting so many of these if the selfish people who won’t get vaccinated would stay home if they’re not wearing masks so that they won’t spread it.

But remember…my right to be a selfish prick is more important than the rights of EVERYBODY ELSE to not contract the virus.


You're a moron.

Is this not America? I thought you have the rights and freedom to make whatever choices you want, whether it's the vaccination or not.

Go frick a door knob and leave us sane people alone, Karen.
Posted by DomincDecoco
of no fixed abode
Member since Oct 2018
10860 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 12:24 pm to
I was vaccinated and tested positive. With symptoms.

Not politicizing shite, just stating facts.
Posted by BananaHammock
Member since Aug 2011
13150 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 12:42 pm to
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I was vaccinated and tested positive. With symptoms.

Not politicizing shite, just stating facts.

The symptoms may have been worse if you weren’t vaccinated. Not politicizing either. Also, glad you’re ok.
Posted by D500MAG
Oklahoma
Member since Oct 2010
3736 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 12:43 pm to
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Wouldn't not contracting the virus be the indication that the vaccine works?


SMH
asymptomatic people were testing positive before.
there is a reason SICK people are quarantined and treated, not healthy people

a healthy body needs oxygen to fight and heal, not rebreathed co2

middle/high school biology of the 80's
Posted by greenwave
Member since Oct 2011
3878 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 12:52 pm to
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Stop testing people who are not sick, especially if vaccinated.


This is really the key takeaway.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40124 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 1:15 pm to
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Wouldn't not contracting the virus be the indication that the vaccine works?



After a person is exposed to the virus, the virus starts to replicate inside a person's body. Once the amount of virus (aka viral load) reaches a certain level the virus overwhelms the immune system and that is when a person becomes symptomatic and/or contagious. The vaccine preps the immune system so that it can start making a full immune response to the virus within 48hrs of exposure instead of 10-14 days after exposure. The exposed vaccinated person's viral load is extremely unlikely to reach the level for the vaccinated person to become infectious and/or symptomatic.

However that doesn't mean that a person will not test positive. A positive test only means that viral RNA is present in the body. It does not mean that the person's viral load is at the level is high enough to be infectious or if that viral material is even active. A virus could be inactivated by antibodies and the test would still be positive.
Posted by Party At LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2005
10693 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 1:18 pm to
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Lol this is one of the stupidest things I’ve read in a while.

Consider the source
Posted by Hurricane Mike
Member since Jun 2008
20059 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 6:19 pm to
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We wouldn’t be getting so many of these if the selfish people who won’t get vaccinated would stay home if they’re not wearing masks so that they won’t spread it.


Do you ever get tired of posting bullshite?

I know the rest of us get tired of reading it
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59104 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 6:43 pm to
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Is this not America? I thought you have the rights and freedom to make whatever choices you want,


how naive are you we could sit here the rest of the week a list examples both parties deny people those choices

seriously the old adage is your right to throw a punch end where someone else's nose begins. So no you don't have a right to spread a virus just because, whether the virus is dangerous enough to warrant some one staying home or getting vaxxed is another question
This post was edited on 7/26/21 at 6:45 pm
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
13360 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 6:55 pm to
But those “super strict” sexual assault rules, amirite?
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34507 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 6:57 pm to
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We wouldn’t be getting so many of these if the selfish people who won’t get vaccinated would stay home if they’re not wearing masks so that they won’t spread it. But remember…my right to be a selfish prick is more important than the rights of EVERYBODY ELSE to not contract the virus.


You are such a liberal pussy.. holy shite


Take your communist arse to a different country
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
13360 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 6:57 pm to
Infectious diseases exist everywhere dumbass, your bullshite theory doesn’t hold up under any logic I AM AN AMERICAN AND I WILL EXERCISE MY GOD-GIVEN RIGHTS AND YOUR CORONABRO bullshite WILL NOT STOP ME! NO ONE’S POINTING A GUN AT YOU AND MAKING YOU GO OUT, PUSSY! SUCK A COMMUNIST DICK!
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
13360 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 7:00 pm to
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seriously the old adage is your right to throw a punch end where someone else's nose begins. So no you don't have a right to spread a virus just because, whether the virus is dangerous enough to warrant some one staying home or getting vaxxed is another question


There’s a difference between assaulting someone and breathing air like a normal human being and exercising God-given rights, dumbass, go to Cuba please we don’t need more of you.
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