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re: Colorado’s transfer rules will be a major hurdle for Coach Prime

Posted on 12/4/22 at 9:33 pm to
Posted by idontyield
Tunnel Trash
Member since Jun 2022
588 posts
Posted on 12/4/22 at 9:33 pm to
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And this is some of the stuff that I doubt was even brought up to him.


How stupid are some of yall? A man who has been successful at the highest level somehow knows nothing about preparation now? frick all the way off with this.

CU is changing their transfer rules for Prime.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
35494 posts
Posted on 12/4/22 at 9:33 pm to
I found this. Looks like they are open to change. But you can’t add degree programs overnight.

Looks like all the chancellor promised was an expedited review of transfers, not any added majors or lowered standards.


CBS

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Two months ago, when CU fired former head football coach, Karl Dorrell, Chancellor Phil Distefano said CU likely wouldn't change its policy to attract more athletes.

"It's just based upon the degrees we offer," he said in a press conference back in October. "We do not have physical education here, and we do not have general education, and to be honest, that's not going to change."

However, with new head football coach Deion Sanders being introduced in a press conference Sunday, DiStefano seemed ready to shake things up.

"We're working to give coach and all of his student-athletes the stools they need to succeed," Distefano said.

He announced the institution updating its transfer credit review processes. The school is implementing a program that will provide an expedited assessment of transferability of academic credits from other institutions to be accepted at CU Boulder.

Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
84708 posts
Posted on 12/4/22 at 9:47 pm to
quote:

know this guy named Edward. Sometimes people call him Ed. I know it's confusing.


Glad to hear but it doesn’t answer my question
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
37911 posts
Posted on 12/4/22 at 9:59 pm to
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He announced the institution updating its transfer credit review processes. The school is implementing a program that will provide an expedited assessment of transferability of academic credits from other institutions to be accepted at CU Boulder.


I bet this will annoy the frick out of their Liberal, tree-hugging faculty.

And I'm on board for it all.
Posted by extremetigerfanatic
Member since Oct 2003
5999 posts
Posted on 12/4/22 at 10:19 pm to
He will do well. Because he can pay the best players.

It’s almost like all of us saying NIL was a bad idea saw this coming.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
35494 posts
Posted on 12/4/22 at 10:23 pm to
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And the way that faculty own the curriculum, they own the degrees


This quote from the chancellor in the OP is the one Deion and any CU football fan should be concerned about. He’s basically saying that he can’t change the curriculums or the degrees. Those are in the hands of the professors.

All he can do is enact some administrative changes like expediting transcript evaluations.

While it looks like people are expecting an immediate revamp of their system, there is no evidence that is happening.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
84708 posts
Posted on 12/4/22 at 11:33 pm to
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We're working to give coach and all of his student-athletes the stools they need to succeed," Distefano said.


He’s giving the football program all the shite it needs
Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
10005 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 12:22 am to
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But you can’t add degree programs overnight.



This implies that top players are going to school for degrees. Is it really that big of a deal to a player that is potentially NFL-bound, if it'll take another year to graduate, or that he won't have a degree after his senior year?

For some, sure but most kids transferring to CU are doing so for football reasons and nothing else.
Posted by martiansgohome
Ankara
Member since Feb 2004
4682 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 1:18 am to
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This implies that top players are going to school for degrees. Is it really that big of a deal to a player that is potentially NFL-bound, if it'll take another year to graduate, or that he won't have a degree after his senior year? For some, sure but most kids transferring to CU are doing so for football reasons and nothing else.


Could transferring to a new degree program mess up how a player’s degree progress is assessed by the NCAA?
Posted by YNWA
Member since Nov 2015
7233 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 6:29 am to
The top programs in the Pac 12 are leaving. He should do ok in a watered down conference.
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
48406 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 7:05 am to
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Most other schools, including most of the AAU schools CU likes to associate itself with, do have general studies and/or integrated studies degrees. As a result, transferring between those schools much easier easy, as they offer many of the same courses.
Simply put, CU doesn’t offer certain programs that are popular among student-athletes.


America would be better off if no school offered worthless degrees like that.
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
74852 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 7:38 am to
If someone asks you what was said at this meeting, tell them “He coming”.

Way to make it about “we” rather than “me”.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24206 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 8:00 am to
quote:

This implies that top players are going to school for degrees. Is it really that big of a deal to a player that is potentially NFL-bound, if it'll take another year to graduate, or that he won't have a degree after his senior year?

For some, sure but most kids transferring to CU are doing so for football reasons and nothing else.



That's not how it works. Many schools only allow transfers in with a certain amount of credits toward a degree. So if someone is a PE major or Psych major they have to have say 15 credits as a freshmen transfer and 60 credits as a Junior transfer into a certain program.

The point of this is that a degree like PE or Journalism generally has something like 50 elective hours, to allow it to both be a joke degree but also to allow a bunch of different career paths.

What this is saying is that Colorado doesn't have any degrees with a lot of elective hours and their transfer rules in are strict on their requirements.

So while the admins may be able to fast track the human involvement, these players still have to be able to "find" a degree their transcript qualifies for. That may be very difficult at Colorado.

The fact are though that that's a very outdated policy and creating a degree for student athletes under something like journalism, PE, etc. would be very easy to have one or two departments do and they could fairly easily throw a mil or $2 around to get it done yesterday even at a super lib college.
Posted by Captain Crackysack
Member since Oct 2017
2231 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 10:11 am to
Of course he’s trying to run off as much of the current roster as he can. He literally told them that. Who the frick wants those sorry arse players that just went 1-11?
Posted by TheGasMan
Member since Oct 2014
3485 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 10:16 am to
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They are paying almost 6M per year with a 5M assistant

Exactly. CU has turned the corner when it comes to support of the football team by the administration. You don’t throw that cash out if not so.

Hell that’s more than the majority of SEC coaches.
Posted by Ralph_Wiggum
Sugarland
Member since Jul 2005
11102 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 10:21 am to
The bar is low at Colorado. If he goes 7-5 in a few years he can take a better job. Mel Tucker turned moderate success into a better job at Michigan State.

The Bill McCartney era was a product of a different time in college football.
Posted by Zap Rowsdower
MissLou, La
Member since Sep 2010
16204 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 10:38 am to
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The top programs in the Pac 12 are leaving. He should do ok in a watered down conference.



If Prime isn't PAC. Then who is?
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
61475 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 11:15 am to
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Of course he’s trying to run off as much of the current roster as he can. He literally told them that


Not really. If you listen to the entire thing he's talking about everyone getting on board w/a new program and if they can't do that they should go which is fairly standard coach speak. Not really the same as telling them all to GTFO.
This post was edited on 12/5/22 at 11:22 am
Posted by Captain Crackysack
Member since Oct 2017
2231 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 11:33 am to
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Not really. If you listen to the entire thing he's talking about everyone getting on board w/a new program and if they can't do that they should go which is fairly standard coach speak. Not really the same as telling them all to GTFO

He quite literally said that he’s ready for them to hit the portal because the more of them that leave, the more of his own transfers he can bring in. That whole auditorium is filled with worthless scrubs. Who would want to build a program with that as the foundation?
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
95026 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 11:36 am to
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That whole auditorium is filled with worthless scrubs.


He said he wants guys that are committed to winning and wants to work.

That roster finished 1-11. Not a great foundation to begin a rebuild, is it not? I mean, is he wrong?

He’s basically telling them if they want to leave, then leave.

He even said there were guys that didn’t go to the meeting that were supposed to be there.
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