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re: College football: Too regional?

Posted on 1/14/20 at 7:18 pm to
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 1/14/20 at 7:18 pm to
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No one gives a frick about crew and water polo.


Only two college sports that matter are men’s basketball and football
Posted by Snoop Dawg
Member since Sep 2009
2185 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 7:49 pm to
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college hockey final four Only from these states Minnesota Wisconsin Michigan North Dakota New York Massachusetts Notre Dame recently That is all.


No. Colorado, Connecticut, Rhode Island, New Hampshire.....
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71599 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 8:04 pm to
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And check out where Ohio State gets the bulk of their difference makers from.


Where?
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
30189 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 8:28 pm to
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but if it's basically OSU, Clem, Bama/LSU/UGA dominating the next five years


Sad endorsement when 3 of the top tier teams/programs will miss playoffs because they are in the same conference (and division in LSU/Bama's case).

I really wish some PAC teams would get good again. At least it made things interesting.
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 1/14/20 at 8:33 pm to
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It emphasizes college sports way more than other regions that's for sure.


Meanwhile, Stanford just won another “sports” trophy.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71599 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 8:36 pm to
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UGA
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dominating
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top tier teams/programs


Posted by SoDakHawk
South Dakota
Member since Jun 2014
8567 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 10:13 pm to
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It emphasizes college sports way more than other regions that's for sure.



Negative. The South values CFB more, that's for sure. Other conferences, especially the PAC have much larger athletic departments that offer way more sports. The PAC leads in NCAA titles largely in the Olympic sports.

Posted by SoDakHawk
South Dakota
Member since Jun 2014
8567 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 10:24 pm to
Along these lines because somebody mentioned college hockey. The word up north is that college hockey is getting pretty big at SEC and ACC schools at the club level (ACHA). I've heard stories of crowds in the thousands showing up for games at some schools. Oklahoma is another school that is reported to have a very good ACHA program.

I wonder how long it will be before some Southern schools dip their toes into NCAA D1 hockey. I know with AZ State going D1 there are a few PAC schools looking to start programs.
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47824 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 10:27 pm to
I feel like college football and perhaps football as a whole has a bubble we are rapidly approaching, and the loss of interest of many fanbases outside of the south is one of the key reasons why. The general concerns about the sport as it pertains to the health of the players is the other main concern.

It’d be really dramatic to claim the sport is dying or anything like that, but I feel like there are some clear signs there is a bubble that might just burst:
Posted by RedPop4
Santiago de Compostela
Member since Jan 2005
14403 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 10:38 pm to
They are doing lacrosse.
Posted by SoDakHawk
South Dakota
Member since Jun 2014
8567 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 10:40 pm to
Lacrosse is another sport that is growing in participation in the country.
Posted by johnnydrama
Possibly Trashy
Member since Feb 2010
8710 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 11:02 pm to
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The word up north is that college hockey is getting pretty big at SEC and ACC schools at the club level (ACHA).


LSU has a club. I think. I know they used to.

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I've heard stories of crowds in the thousands showing up for games at some schools.


I'm not calling "bullshite" but I'd like to see some sort of verification of this.

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I wonder how long it will be before some Southern schools dip their toes into NCAA D1 hockey.


I wouldn't hold my breath. My prediction? Never.

Now Lacrosse? That I could see.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71599 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 11:45 pm to
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loss of interest


I don't think this exists. The game on Monday set records. 29.2 million people watched at the peak.

Sounds like Michig8n fans to me. When they're getting their asses beat for two decades, it's easier to deal with it if they tell everyone they simply don't care. I've been to several games in Ann Arbor that call bullshite.
Posted by JustLivinTheDream
Member since Jan 2017
3496 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 11:59 pm to
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if it's basically OSU, Clem, Bama/LSU/UGA dominating the next five years, that is a problem


Well get ready cause this is what you're gonna get
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
33939 posts
Posted on 1/15/20 at 12:52 am to
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It's a big problem with the same 5-6 schools consolidating all the best players. Fans of other programs lose interest.



7-on-7 leagues, national camps, and football factories like IMG are major contributors to this consolidation because they loosen the regional ties that have long-dominated CFB recruiting and ensued regional parity.

Now all of a sudden you've got the best recruits traveling like crazy getting exposure to schools all over the country, and, in the most extreme cases, kids are moving across the country to play their final year or two of high school.
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
81639 posts
Posted on 1/15/20 at 1:05 am to
I agree - college football badly needs USC
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35496 posts
Posted on 1/15/20 at 2:00 am to
Yeah, Olympic medals don't matter.

Just CFB.

Baseball, golf, track and field, hobbies.

Tell Usain Bolt that. Just because one Conference puts all their eggs in one basket and lets Kentucky rule the Conference willy-nilly in basketball doesn't make remotely normal.

OP said sports. Can't really say your Conference cares more about sports when it's just ONE sport.

Stanford is the biggest phony out there...they put out this image that they only care about academics but they want to win at EVERYTHING.

And for the record, water polo doesn't hand out 50 championships a year. Water polo or volleyball doesn't conventiently explain the Pac-12 dominance in sports.

And if you think T&F isn't a sport stop watching the Olympics and tell Europe and Asia to go frick themselves. I don't see them playing Cfb, but I sure as hell see them at the Olympics competing in events the rest of the world considers sports.
Golf, tennis, baseball, T&F, are real sports just ask Tiger or Usain or Roger or Trout.
This post was edited on 1/15/20 at 2:04 am
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65082 posts
Posted on 1/15/20 at 3:25 am to
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Would that be the narrative if the PAC-12 were dominant?


Probably not. But the PAC-12 isn't dominant and haven't really been in the conversation as a dominant conference since the 90s when teams like UCLA, Washington, Washington State, and Arizona State were all competing at a high level.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65082 posts
Posted on 1/15/20 at 3:27 am to
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The game on Monday set records. 29.2 million people watched at the peak.


But where are those viewers watching from? The population of the southeastern United States is roughly 97 million people. In theory, everyone who watched the game could have been from that region of the country.



Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 1/15/20 at 5:15 am to
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Yeah, Olympic medals don't matter.

Just CFB.

At the college level CFB and Basketball are all that matter

This has nothing to do what happens in the Olympics
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