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TulaneFan
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Pearl River, LA
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re: College football: Too regional?
Nebraska and Michigan will probably never return to their former glory, just too hard to sustain a top program in areas devoid of elite football talent.


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Lima Whiskey
Virginia Fan
Member since Apr 2013
7597 posts

re: College football: Too regional?
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So people in New England fight instead of play football?


This subject is (one) of my passions.

The south is the most violent region of the country, but when you dig into the data, it’s largely about men saving face. It’s killing the man who insulted you, or the man who slept with your wife.

New England remains very Puritan, and New Englanders commit those kinds of crimes at much lower rates as a consequence. Fighting is much less common, unless you’re Catholic.
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luckylefty
Miami (FL) Fan
new orleans
Member since May 2009
2507 posts

re: College football: Too regional?
I've never understood how Cali doesn't do better when they supposedly produce as much talent as TX and FL.


CelticDog
LSU Fan
Member since Apr 2015
29949 posts

re: College football: Too regional?
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The LSU win was refreshing for now, but if it's basically OSU, Clem, Bama/LSU/UGA dominating the next five years, that is a problem.






college hockey final four

Only from these states

Minnesota
Wisconsin
Michigan
North Dakota
New York
Massachusetts
Notre Dame recently

That is all.



CelticDog
LSU Fan
Member since Apr 2015
29949 posts

re: College football: Too regional?
California has won several nattys.

Southern cal never all the way back from penalties. Good they stuck with southern cal grad and shunned coach o.


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LittleRockHog501
Arkansas Fan
Member since Nov 2011
2143 posts

re: College football: Too regional?
Their talent leaves a lot. There was a similar thread like this earlier last week. If I was looking at 247 correctly the California had like 30 four stars. A good chunk of them are committed to non pac teams
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Nobelium
Member since May 2018
504 posts

re: College football: Too regional?
Because Texas and Florida aren't the only talent hotbeds in the south, while California is pretty much the only state churning out blue chips west of Texas.

Think about it, an SEC program doesn't have to completely lock down Florida to get talent. They can get some guys from Florida, some guys from Georgia, some guys from Louisiana, some guys from Mississippi, etc. The southeast produces enough talent for that to happen.

Out west it's only California. There is no other state to recruit in. And when the big time programs in the East are cherrypicking talent from there and southern recruits couldn't care less about USC being good 15 years ago, there just isn't enough talent to go around.


I Bleed Garnet
South Carolina Fan
TriBeCa
Member since Jul 2011
33770 posts

re: College football: Too regional?
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The south is the most violent region of the country, but when you dig into the data, it’s largely about men saving face. It’s killing the man who insulted you, or the man who slept with your wife.

New England remains very Puritan, and New Englanders commit those kinds of crimes at much lower rates as a consequence. Fighting is much less common, unless you’re Catholic.


I live in NY and think people are far more violent here than they were down south
Especially in my industry (Wall Street)


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I Bleed Garnet
South Carolina Fan
TriBeCa
Member since Jul 2011
33770 posts

re: College football: Too regional?
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Only from these states

Minnesota
Wisconsin
Michigan
North Dakota
New York
Massachusetts
Notre Dame recently

That is all.


You don’t even need to say frozen four.
Just show how many schools have D1 college hockey
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LittleRockHog501
Arkansas Fan
Member since Nov 2011
2143 posts

re: College football: Too regional?
There is also far more competition to beat out for those recruits. It should in theory balance out to me.

If you're Georgia as an example you have Auburn Florida Florida state Miami Alabama Tennessee clemson South Carolina who have all recruited well touching your state.


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TheeRealCarolina
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Member since Aug 2018
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re: College football: Too regional?
California’s population total is misleading because of demographics and soy consumption.

Most of the high end talent there leaves for better programs in the South or Midwest.

If you are a blue chip recruit in say San Diego, would you rather go to 1. Southern Cal/UCLA where you will be a broke arse no name athlete in a very expensive city to live in or 2. Athens/Tuscaloosa/Gainesville/Columbus/Norman and be at the top of the athletic food chain in a more reasonably price town/city?


Bestbank Tiger
Tulane Fan
The Landmass
Member since Jan 2005
48935 posts

re: College football: Too regional?
Would that be the narrative if the PAC-12 were dominant?


I Bleed Garnet
South Carolina Fan
TriBeCa
Member since Jul 2011
33770 posts

re: College football: Too regional?
If you’re going to USC you ain’t gonna be broke
They’ll pay for ya


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Cowboyfan89
McNeese State Fan
Member since Sep 2015
8180 posts

re: College football: Too regional?
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Since 2006, only one school from outside the Southeast has a NC. I would argue that it's becoming bad for the sport.

So if you count Texas and OU as outside the Southeast, there have only been 13 years since 1980 where a team from the Southeast did not win at least a share of the National Title.

That's 40 years. 9 of those came between 1980 and 2000. Seems to me when they system changed the game changed.


mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
22416 posts

re: College football: Too regional?
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Does the South just value sports more than other regions?


It emphasizes ONE college sports way more than other regions that's for sure


FIFY

The Pac-12 emphasizes sports like no other Conference...ergo the Conference of Champions...they fund EVERYTHING, produce the most Olympic athletes, schools are training grounds for International athletes. If the Pac-12 was a country, it would've finished 5th in medals at the Rio Summer Olympics.

Stanford, UCLA and USC win at everything (except UCLA in football and USC in basketball) - those three schools have more National Championships than the entire Big10 and the entire SEC.

No Conference puts more money into sports than the Pac-12.
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Sevendust912
West Virginia Fan
Philadelphia Eagles Fan
Member since Jun 2013
10885 posts

re: College football: Too regional?
The south has a much higher black population and they are still playing football as young kids. White folks are steering their kids to other sports so it will probably consolidate to the southern schools even more.

People in the north focus more on basketball, hockey, lacrosse, wrestling etc.


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McMillan
Missouri Fan
Member since Jul 2018
1498 posts

re: College football: Too regional?
For selfish reasons, I'd rather not see the Nubs back on the national stage, but you're right nonetheless.


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RougeDawg
Louisiana Tech Fan
Member since Jul 2016
1567 posts

re: College football: Too regional?
Only so many athletes to go around.

Football is more ingrained in the culture in the South:



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saintsfan22
New Orleans Pelicans Fan
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
52459 posts

re: College football: Too regional?
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California’s population total is misleading because of demographics and soy consumption.

Most of the high end talent there leaves for better programs in the South or Midwest.


They leave because USC sucks now.
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If you are a blue chip recruit in say San Diego, would you rather go to 1. Southern Cal/UCLA where you will be a broke arse no name athlete in a very expensive city to live in or 2. Athens/Tuscaloosa/Gainesville/Columbus/Norman and be at the top of the athletic food chain in a more reasonably price town/city?

Reggie Bush was a blue chip athlete from San Diego who very much enjoyed his time as a "broke" college athlete in LA.


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TheeRealCarolina
South Carolina Fan
Member since Aug 2018
5540 posts

re: College football: Too regional?
No one gives a frick about crew and water polo.


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