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re: College football: Too regional?

Posted on 1/14/20 at 3:45 pm to
Posted by TulaneFan
Slidell, LA
Member since Jan 2008
14037 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 3:45 pm to
Nebraska and Michigan will probably never return to their former glory, just too hard to sustain a top program in areas devoid of elite football talent.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19255 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 3:49 pm to
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So people in New England fight instead of play football?


This subject is (one) of my passions.

The south is the most violent region of the country, but when you dig into the data, it’s largely about men saving face. It’s killing the man who insulted you, or the man who slept with your wife.

New England remains very Puritan, and New Englanders commit those kinds of crimes at much lower rates as a consequence. Fighting is much less common, unless you’re Catholic.
This post was edited on 1/14/20 at 3:56 pm
Posted by luckylefty
new orleans
Member since May 2009
2727 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 3:49 pm to
I've never understood how Cali doesn't do better when they supposedly produce as much talent as TX and FL.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 3:52 pm to
quote:

The LSU win was refreshing for now, but if it's basically OSU, Clem, Bama/LSU/UGA dominating the next five years, that is a problem.






college hockey final four

Only from these states

Minnesota
Wisconsin
Michigan
North Dakota
New York
Massachusetts
Notre Dame recently

That is all.

Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 3:55 pm to
California has won several nattys.

Southern cal never all the way back from penalties. Good they stuck with southern cal grad and shunned coach o.
Posted by LittleRockHog501
Member since Nov 2011
2480 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 4:10 pm to
Their talent leaves a lot. There was a similar thread like this earlier last week. If I was looking at 247 correctly the California had like 30 four stars. A good chunk of them are committed to non pac teams
This post was edited on 1/14/20 at 6:08 pm
Posted by Nobelium
Member since May 2018
821 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 5:34 pm to
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This post was edited on 4/24/21 at 1:05 pm
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 6:02 pm to
quote:

The south is the most violent region of the country, but when you dig into the data, it’s largely about men saving face. It’s killing the man who insulted you, or the man who slept with your wife.

New England remains very Puritan, and New Englanders commit those kinds of crimes at much lower rates as a consequence. Fighting is much less common, unless you’re Catholic.


I live in NY and think people are far more violent here than they were down south
Especially in my industry (Wall Street)
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 6:02 pm to
quote:

Only from these states

Minnesota
Wisconsin
Michigan
North Dakota
New York
Massachusetts
Notre Dame recently

That is all.


You don’t even need to say frozen four.
Just show how many schools have D1 college hockey
This post was edited on 1/14/20 at 6:03 pm
Posted by LittleRockHog501
Member since Nov 2011
2480 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 6:06 pm to
There is also far more competition to beat out for those recruits. It should in theory balance out to me.

If you're Georgia as an example you have Auburn Florida Florida state Miami Alabama Tennessee clemson South Carolina who have all recruited well touching your state.
Posted by TheeRealCarolina
Member since Aug 2018
17925 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 6:10 pm to
California’s population total is misleading because of demographics and soy consumption.

Most of the high end talent there leaves for better programs in the South or Midwest.

If you are a blue chip recruit in say San Diego, would you rather go to 1. Southern Cal/UCLA where you will be a broke arse no name athlete in a very expensive city to live in or 2. Athens/Tuscaloosa/Gainesville/Columbus/Norman and be at the top of the athletic food chain in a more reasonably price town/city?
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
71116 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 6:12 pm to
Would that be the narrative if the PAC-12 were dominant?
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 6:13 pm to
If you’re going to USC you ain’t gonna be broke
They’ll pay for ya
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
12717 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 6:15 pm to
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Since 2006, only one school from outside the Southeast has a NC. I would argue that it's becoming bad for the sport.

So if you count Texas and OU as outside the Southeast, there have only been 13 years since 1980 where a team from the Southeast did not win at least a share of the National Title.

That's 40 years. 9 of those came between 1980 and 2000. Seems to me when they system changed the game changed.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35521 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 6:16 pm to
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Does the South just value sports more than other regions?


It emphasizes ONE college sports way more than other regions that's for sure


FIFY

The Pac-12 emphasizes sports like no other Conference...ergo the Conference of Champions...they fund EVERYTHING, produce the most Olympic athletes, schools are training grounds for International athletes. If the Pac-12 was a country, it would've finished 5th in medals at the Rio Summer Olympics.

Stanford, UCLA and USC win at everything (except UCLA in football and USC in basketball) - those three schools have more National Championships than the entire Big10 and the entire SEC.

No Conference puts more money into sports than the Pac-12.
This post was edited on 1/14/20 at 6:18 pm
Posted by Sevendust912
Member since Jun 2013
11366 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 6:19 pm to
The south has a much higher black population and they are still playing football as young kids. White folks are steering their kids to other sports so it will probably consolidate to the southern schools even more.

People in the north focus more on basketball, hockey, lacrosse, wrestling etc.
Posted by McMillan
Member since Jul 2018
5906 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 6:29 pm to
For selfish reasons, I'd rather not see the Nubs back on the national stage, but you're right nonetheless.
Posted by RougeDawg
Member since Jul 2016
5862 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 6:46 pm to
Only so many athletes to go around.

Football is more ingrained in the culture in the South:

Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
71622 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 6:51 pm to
quote:

California’s population total is misleading because of demographics and soy consumption.

Most of the high end talent there leaves for better programs in the South or Midwest.


They leave because USC sucks now.
quote:

If you are a blue chip recruit in say San Diego, would you rather go to 1. Southern Cal/UCLA where you will be a broke arse no name athlete in a very expensive city to live in or 2. Athens/Tuscaloosa/Gainesville/Columbus/Norman and be at the top of the athletic food chain in a more reasonably price town/city?

Reggie Bush was a blue chip athlete from San Diego who very much enjoyed his time as a "broke" college athlete in LA.
Posted by TheeRealCarolina
Member since Aug 2018
17925 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 7:14 pm to
No one gives a frick about crew and water polo.
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