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re: College Basketball Point Shaving Scandal

Posted on 2/25/25 at 10:19 am to
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 2/25/25 at 10:19 am to
Shaving points in basketball has to be the easiest thing to do.

Oops, I missed a layup. Oops, I took a terrible jumper. Oops, I fouled when we were down 15 with :08 left.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
54145 posts
Posted on 2/25/25 at 10:19 am to
Will Wade is a total sleazebag
Posted by More beer please
Member since Feb 2010
46308 posts
Posted on 2/25/25 at 10:22 am to
quote:

Will Wade is a total sleazebag


Didnt read any of the article or posts did you
Posted by dupergreenie
Member since May 2014
9651 posts
Posted on 2/25/25 at 10:24 am to
I'm gonna sit this one out.....
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
34193 posts
Posted on 2/25/25 at 10:52 am to
quote:

That SI story mentioned basically everyone else but no mention of McNeese.


Yeah. I have no reason to think the OP's post is inaccurate (or accurate), but the SI article doesn't mention McNeese at all. Given it's author is Pat Forde, who has ZERO love for Wade, you have to think he wouldn't hold back any information if he could, even loosely, tie a scandal to Wade.
Posted by lsu31always
Team 31™
Member since Jan 2008
108108 posts
Posted on 2/25/25 at 10:54 am to
Yea suspending 4 starters with no comment on why. Should have raised more flags for people but it's uno so no one cares.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
175903 posts
Posted on 2/25/25 at 10:58 am to
quote:

IMightDeleteLater

How about right now
Posted by lowhound
Effie
Member since Aug 2014
9702 posts
Posted on 2/25/25 at 10:58 am to
quote:

That SI story mentioned basically everyone else but no mention of McNeese.



I was just about to say the same thing. Where does it say anything about McNeese?
Posted by JimTiger72
Member since Jun 2023
16426 posts
Posted on 2/25/25 at 10:59 am to
It doesn’t. OP said allegedly being investigated

quote:

Additional news and teams involved should be out soon.
Posted by lsu31always
Team 31™
Member since Jan 2008
108108 posts
Posted on 2/25/25 at 11:00 am to
Doesn't say anything about UNO or Southern Miss either.


Have heard about the UNO allegations. They suspended four starters. Don't think they have played again since.

Eta: Southern Miss just kicked it's most talented player off the team.
This post was edited on 2/25/25 at 11:03 am
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
34193 posts
Posted on 2/25/25 at 11:04 am to
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That’s not what this is. It’s a “bookie” or a “sharp” paying a player/players to fix the game so he wins a bet


From a coach's standpoint it depends on the "suspicious activity" of the player(s). If a key player is unexpectedly suspended or unexpectedly out with an injury, you can look at the coach. That's what happened with the dumbass Alabama baseball coach. He knew he was going to sit (ironically) Luke Holman in a game vs. Skenes. He disclosed that fact to a friend before the info became public who then tried to place an absurd bet on LSU.

On the other hand, it is very difficult for a coach to suspect a guy having a shitty game is doing so on purpose. Shitty games happen all the time. A few missed shot in at the end, a missed FT here, a late foul, can all be done to point shave without anyone noticing. It's MUCH easier to do so in basketball than any other sport.

It's the moron gamblers that screw up. Like trying to random place some large bet on a game between Longwood and Alabama A&M.
Posted by More beer please
Member since Feb 2010
46308 posts
Posted on 2/25/25 at 11:15 am to
More often than not it’s just the players at lower level programs that are bad.

Will Wade isnt out there going 23-6 and throwing games at the same time.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
34193 posts
Posted on 2/25/25 at 11:26 am to
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More often than not it’s just the players at lower level programs that are bad.


Not historically.

"Headache" Smith was the player involved in the Arizona St scandal. He was a 2x All Conf. player and ASU's leading scorer at the time.

"Hot Rod" Williams was Tulane's best player when he was involved in the Tulane scandal (which basically ended the program for 5 years)
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
75922 posts
Posted on 2/25/25 at 11:35 am to
quote:

That's what happened with the dumbass Alabama baseball coach. He knew he was going to sit (ironically) Luke Holman in a game vs. Skenes. He disclosed that fact to a friend before the info became public who then tried to place an absurd bet on LSU.


Kind of. Holman wasn't actually hurt that day (per his agent). And Bohannon had been betting on games for at least 3 years through his retard buddy that got him caught. He was apparently very bad at picking horses, so he was trying to make up.

And even still, Alabama had a chance to win that game and he put in a guy with like 2 ABs to pinch hit at a pivotal time late in the game.
Posted by msutiger
Houston
Member since Jul 2008
71469 posts
Posted on 2/25/25 at 11:38 am to
quote:

Have heard about the UNO allegations. They suspended four starters. Don't think they have played again since.


lol I just looked and four of their five leading scorers haven’t played a game since 1/27

Wild.
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
39946 posts
Posted on 2/25/25 at 11:41 am to
quote:

"Headache" Smith was the player involved in the Arizona St scandal. He was a 2x All Conf. player and ASU's leading scorer at the time.



too shave points you need the ball. Netflix did an untold on headache smith. One or two other guys on the team were in on it.

It was pretty easy for them to keep it within the number. Up 5 with 1 minute to go, brick a 3, or turn the ball over.

It wasn't going to kill their stat sheet
Posted by More beer please
Member since Feb 2010
46308 posts
Posted on 2/25/25 at 11:48 am to
Currently I’d argue that’s the case. Years ago it may have been more high profile players and better programs. Obviously in the northeast years ago.

But none of the ones listed in this thread I’d argue as high profile CBB programs.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
53813 posts
Posted on 2/25/25 at 12:17 pm to
quote:

Should have raised more flags for people but it's uno so no one cares.


Can’t imagine anywhere in D1 being more depressing..
Posted by Lawyered
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Posted on 2/25/25 at 12:18 pm to
Sponsored by fanduel !
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 2/25/25 at 12:38 pm to
I saw t'pear last night in person.
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