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Coaches leaving vs players sitting out

Posted on 12/28/19 at 10:21 am
Posted by GeauxTigers777
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 12/28/19 at 10:21 am
What's the difference between coaches leaving their teams before the bowl game for other job opportunities and players sitting out?
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 12/28/19 at 10:21 am to
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Posted by FulshearTiger
Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 12/28/19 at 10:23 am to
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What's your point?

Who said the 2 were different?
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112238 posts
Posted on 12/28/19 at 10:24 am to
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Who said the 2 were different?



Coaches who whine about this generation not wanting to “stick it out” and just picking the “easy route” and yet will jump in a heartbeat for a better situation
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
9758 posts
Posted on 12/28/19 at 10:25 am to
Coaches are adults with jobs.


Posted by Dawgwithnoname
NE Louisiana
Member since Dec 2019
4278 posts
Posted on 12/28/19 at 10:27 am to
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Coaches are adults with jobs


Finally, someone with a rational take.

Some kids have never been told no before and run the first time they hear it.

Coaches who leave to take more money because their new employer demands it is apples to oranges from "I'm not getting my touches"
Posted by PhillyFan1994
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 12/28/19 at 10:41 am to
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Some kids have never been told no before and run the first time they hear it.


I may be wrong here but aren't most players who sit out bowl games doing so because of the impact a potential injury could have on their professional career? I mean coaches who tell their future teams that they would like to coach one last game essentially risk nothing. They are at no risk of a serious injury potentially stopping them from performing in their new position. However, players are one freak play away from their careers being ended or at least seriously hindered. As for players who leave because they aren't getting their touches, this is also a career related decision. Most guys essentially see college football as a 4-5 month NFL tryout. If they are on a team where they aren't even getting to showcase their talent, why sit on the bench for one more meaningless game when you can move forward to a program where you think you can excel?
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 12/28/19 at 10:42 am to
He’s not talking about transfers, he’s talking about skipping bowl games.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66344 posts
Posted on 12/28/19 at 10:46 am to
So what about a kid who transfers to get playing time to have a better chance at a job
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 12/28/19 at 10:49 am to
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Coaches are adults with jobs.


So why should a player who is already an NFL prospect risk injury and jeopardize their career?
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 12/28/19 at 10:50 am to
I get your point but one difference is most of the time the school the coach is leaving doesn’t want him to stay
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 12/28/19 at 10:52 am to
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Coaches are adults with jobs.


And?

These players are young men who have the potential to make millions of dollars in the NFL and could be negatively affected by an injury in a bowl game (especially one that isn’t part of the CFP). For some of those guys that’s multi-generational money and the physical window of an NFL career is slim as it is.

As a fan does it suck if one of the top players on your team sits out a post-season game? Sure. But they don’t owe us anything as fans.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112238 posts
Posted on 12/28/19 at 10:53 am to
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Coaches who leave to take more money because their new employer demands it is apples to oranges from "I'm not getting my touches"


How?
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 12/28/19 at 10:57 am to
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So what about a kid who transfers to get playing time to have a better chance at a job

It would probably benefit that player to get more reps with all the bowl practices and whatever reps they can get in game
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112238 posts
Posted on 12/28/19 at 10:57 am to
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Coaches are adults with jobs.


How many under age kids are playing in the NCAA? All these dudes are adults

And these dudes work a hell of a lot harder than I do for my salaried job
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112238 posts
Posted on 12/28/19 at 10:59 am to
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would probably benefit that player to get more reps with all the bowl practices and whatever reps they can get in game


Is the benefit of one more game going to drastically improve your stock enough to to warrant risking an injury that literally costs you money and opportunity at the next level?
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
9758 posts
Posted on 12/28/19 at 11:00 am to
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So why should a player who is already an NFL prospect risk injury and jeopardize their career?


I don't buy into this mentality. Football players play football. Injuries happen and can happen at any time. Trying to control it is a foolish endeavor. Trying to categorize what games are important is even more difficult.

But if guys don't want to play, then don't. Just live with the label of being a quitter and walking out on your team. Trying to validate it or making it the norm just isn't going to take. Fans are never going to accept it.

Comparing it to the coaches is just silly. Coaching is a profession, a life long career path. They have to miss bowl games as a condition of employment. It's usually not their choice, as their new employer once them to start right away. So two separate situations all together.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71339 posts
Posted on 12/28/19 at 11:00 am to
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Coaches are adults with jobs.


How is scholarship football not a job?
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112238 posts
Posted on 12/28/19 at 11:02 am to
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I don't buy into this mentality. Football players play football. Injuries happen and can happen at any time


Risk/reward comes into play when you’re playing in the frickin cheezit bowl a couple months before a draft that will make you a millionaire

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Trying to categorize what games are important is even more difficult.


How about if it’s named after a corporate name brand product you can buy for 2.99 at your local HEB, then it’s not an important game.

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Comparing it to the coaches is just silly. Coaching is a profession, a life long career path. They have to miss bowl games as a condition of employment. It's usually not their choice, as their new employer once them to start right away. So two separate situations all togeth


Oh so they are choosing to skip a bowl game to ensure they have better prospects at their next job? Sounds familiar
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110670 posts
Posted on 12/28/19 at 11:03 am to
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Who said the 2 were different?

See any thread where a player sits out a bowl game vs when a coach leaves before a bowl game.


A great many think it's different.
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