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re: Coaches leaving vs players sitting out

Posted on 12/28/19 at 11:03 am to
Posted by FulshearTiger
Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 12/28/19 at 11:03 am to
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Coaches who whine about this generation not wanting to “stick it out” and just picking the “easy route” and yet will jump in a heartbeat for a better situation


Ya dont say? Coaches, Who have a very large vested interest in players, dont come out and publicly say that they would like to make it easier on players to transfer?

Man, that's riveting.

And none of them have ever said there is a difference between coaches leaving and players leaving.
This post was edited on 12/28/19 at 11:04 am
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 12/28/19 at 11:04 am to
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Coaches are adults with jobs.
Right, and as such they should be the ones held to a higher standard. But we don't do that with coaches like we do with players.

Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112327 posts
Posted on 12/28/19 at 11:05 am to
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Ya dont say? Coaches, Who have a very large vested interest in players, dont come out and publicly say that they would like to make it easier on players to transfer?


Hypocrisy exists whether it’s acknowledged or not
Posted by Hot Carl
Prayers up for 3
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Posted on 12/28/19 at 11:06 am to
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And?

These players are young men who have the potential to make millions of dollars in the NFL and could be negatively affected by an injury in a bowl game (especially one that isn’t part of the CFP). For some of those guys that’s multi-generational money and the physical window of an NFL career is slim as it is.

As a fan does it suck if one of the top players on your team sits out a post-season game? Sure. But they don’t owe us anything as fans.



Where do you draw the line? You cool with all your juniors shutting it down when Kentucky is eliminated from the CFP week 4?
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 12/28/19 at 11:07 am to
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Where do you draw the line? You cool with all your juniors shutting it down when Kentucky is eliminated from the CFP week 4?


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Posted by beaverfever
Little Rock
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 12/28/19 at 11:09 am to
Coaches aren’t members of the team.
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
9783 posts
Posted on 12/28/19 at 11:09 am to
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Risk/reward comes into play when you’re playing in the frickin cheezit bowl a couple months before a draft that will make you a millionaire


I just said, then don't play. We are talking about maybe 25 guys a year out of all of college football that have this option. Most other guys need the game to highlight and feature themselves. Take a guy like Swift from UGA, who is on the fence right now (might have changed IDK). He is a top draft pick, but he can vault into the 1st with a huge bowl game. Or should he just rely on a freak combine?

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Oh so they are choosing to skip a bowl game to ensure they have better prospects at their next job? Sounds familiar


Its a contractual obligation. The other is a personal choice. You can say it's risk/reward, but tons of guys are player regardless and many more wouldn't sit out. You are featuring a dozen or so a year and making it out like this is common place. As an LSU fan with tons of guys in the NFL. How many times has this happened to us? Maybe 5 guys that have sat out?
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112327 posts
Posted on 12/28/19 at 11:10 am to
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Its a contractual obligation. The other is a personal choice.


You don’t think that coach made a personal choice in signing that contract?

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You are featuring a dozen or so a year and making it out like this is common place. As an LSU fan with tons of guys in the NFL. How many times has this happened to us? Maybe 5 guys that have sat out?


I’m not the one freaking out about players sitting out so I don’t care how many sit out meaningless bowl games
This post was edited on 12/28/19 at 11:12 am
Posted by beaverfever
Little Rock
Member since Jan 2008
32682 posts
Posted on 12/28/19 at 11:13 am to
The difference is that coaches are contracted employees of the program. The athletes are the program.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112327 posts
Posted on 12/28/19 at 11:14 am to
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The difference is that coaches are contracted employees of the program. The athletes are the program.




Interesting. What do the players sign when they commit? I’d say that’s a pretty clear definition of a contract.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110841 posts
Posted on 12/28/19 at 11:18 am to
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Where do you draw the line? You cool with all your juniors shutting it down when Kentucky is eliminated from the CFP week 4?

Yes, I am
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
9783 posts
Posted on 12/28/19 at 11:19 am to
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You don’t think that coach made a personal choice in signing that contract?


That is an interesting way that you phrased that. As an industry, I think it would be great if coaching changes only occurred during the summer/off season. It would totally change the whole landscape of college football though and recruiting would become a nightmare. With the early recruiting period, bowl prep (if necessary) and spring practices institutions want new coaches in as soon as possible. Is that what you are advocating?

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I’m not the one freaking out about players sitting out so I don’t care how many sit out meaningless bowl games


I don't really care if they play or not. But I recognize they will still take a bit of a popularity hit and will lose appreciation if they don't play. It just looks selfish. Has any QB done this yet?
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
47599 posts
Posted on 12/28/19 at 11:22 am to
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Trying to categorize what games are important is even more difficult.
we know which ones are and which ones aren’t. That’s good enough
Posted by beaverfever
Little Rock
Member since Jan 2008
32682 posts
Posted on 12/28/19 at 11:24 am to
It’s a contract that says you will be a member of the team/student at the university. Fair point. It’s not wrong to sit out a bowl game. It’s just extra right to stick out your commitment. Same could be said for coaches. I’m sure the Memphis fanbase isn’t giving Norvell a pass for skipping out on the biggest bowl game in the history of their program.
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