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re: Chris Russo's all time starting 9 MLB roster

Posted on 7/15/22 at 9:50 am to
Posted by Dead Snake
Member since Jun 2022
175 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 9:50 am to
Jeter as the all time starting shortstop is just laughable
Posted by InkStainedWretch
Member since Dec 2018
3729 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 9:51 am to
It’s tough when you are limited to three outfielders. F. Robby is an incredibly underrated player historically, IMO he was better than Clemente and behind only Ruth and Aaron in right field.
Posted by grizzlylongcut
Member since Sep 2021
12651 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 10:56 am to
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Chris Russo


I'd rank him in my all time starting dumb frick roster.
Posted by UncleLester
West of the Mississippi
Member since Aug 2008
8356 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 11:29 am to
On principle, need to find a way to add both Rickey Henderson and John Olerud to the roster.

For the mere sake of the potential that this story could repeat itself again - when they all gather for their first practice:

In spring training 1999, Rickey Henderson of the Mets was reunited with first baseman John Olerud, who had been his teammate with the Blue Jays six years earlier.

As most people know, Olerud had an aneurysm in college, which required brain surgery. So to protect his head, he was allowed to wear a helmet in the field. As the story goes, Henderson was talking to Olerud one day, noticed the helmet and said “You know, when I played in Toronto, we had a guy who wore a helmet.”

“Rickey,” said Olerud, “that was me.”




This post was edited on 7/15/22 at 11:29 am
Posted by A Menace to Sobriety
Member since Jun 2018
31822 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 12:04 pm to
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Baseball writers are such insufferable pieces of shite


Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
33125 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 12:17 pm to
At pitcher I would have replaced Koufax with Babe Ruth and then put in DiMaggio. Ruth was a helluva a pitcher. At catcher, although I like Bench, there are probably 6 or 7 better including Pudge Rodriguez.
Tony Pena solely based on his catching stance

Still despite everything, I still think there has to be room for Pete Rose at least second team.

Also Bonds has to be utility first team. I don't care about the roids, he was a complete player
This post was edited on 7/15/22 at 12:33 pm
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
148118 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 12:29 pm to
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Griffey was better than Mays. Don’t let an over the shoulder catch convince you he could do the things Jr could do in the outfield!
this is an opinion
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
33125 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 12:40 pm to
Comparable players in all aspects. It's like saying that Pat's cheesesteaks is better than Gino's. You aren't turning down either one.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
213837 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 2:37 pm to
Mays was better than Griffey.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
33125 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 3:06 pm to
All things being equal Iwould take Mays as well.....but if I could have both....
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
27706 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 3:09 pm to
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At catcher, although I like Bench, there are probably 6 or 7 better including Pudge Rodriguez.


I don't think you can name six or seven catchers better than Johnny Bench.

This post was edited on 7/15/22 at 3:11 pm
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
75081 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 3:14 pm to
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Winning pitchers learn how to win. Look at Steve Carlton




This is asinine. A pitcher could theoretically give up 1 run every 7 innings and still lose every game.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
213837 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 3:23 pm to
In 1972 the Phillies won 59 games and Carlton won 27 by himself…. Just crazy.
Posted by InkStainedWretch
Member since Dec 2018
3729 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 3:24 pm to
Carlton didn’t “learn how to win,” he started winning huge when he got to Philadelphia and the pitching coach, Ray Ripplemyer, told him to start throwing his damn slider … a pitch the Cardinals had dissuaded him from throwing.
This post was edited on 7/15/22 at 3:25 pm
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
102552 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 3:28 pm to
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Carlton didn’t “learn how to win,” he started winning huge when he got to Philadelphia and the pitching coach, Ray Ripplemyer, told him to start throwing his damn slider … a pitch the Cardinals had dissuaded him from throwing.


Now pitchers & pitching coaches have so much data. They can see BAA for every pitch type for LH & RH hitters instantly. And still some guys insist on throwing their worst pitch.
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
140509 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 3:28 pm to
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At catcher, although I like Bench, there are probably 6 or 7 better including Pudge Rodriguez.


The disrespect for Bench here is laughable. Bench is and will always be what you measure Catchers to be.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
33125 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 3:29 pm to
Piazza was better. Pudge Rodriguez was better. Campanella was probably better in his 11 years in the league....who knows what he would have accomplished. Bill Dickey was probably the best all around. I would not have turned down Bench on my roster, but if it were between him and Piazza on my roster, I'm going to ask Bench if there is another position he would consider playing. I'd probably take Pudge Rodriguez over any of them. I always thought he was the smartest player on the field.
Posted by Required
Member since Mar 2022
251 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 5:04 pm to
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At catcher, although I like Bench, there are probably 6 or 7 better including Pudge Rodriguez.


I don't think you can name six or seven catchers better than Johnny Bench.
I picked Ivan but I'll agree that bench was great and top 3 or 4 but I choose Ivan I guess I like a big bat. If I went for pure defense then hell Benito Santiago was the best pure catcher defensively I've ever seen. He was literally throwing out runners at 2nd from his knees over and over in "mlb".
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
102552 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 5:05 pm to
A whole lot of disrespect to Tony Eusebio going on in here.
Posted by Required
Member since Mar 2022
251 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 5:09 pm to
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quote:
Trout
Bonds
Frank
Larkin
Boggs
Ivan
Griffey jr(dh)
Ryno




Griffey shouldn't be your DH
flip it....trout(dh) kgj (cf)

This line up to me in all of their prime years would win 6/7 titles

I see you left out gywnn....Tony was arguably the best pure hitter of all time left or right side. Not sure why he is left out of many line ups. He was and still is the best lead off hitter ever. I think he was bat champ like 18 times. No one will ever pass that.
This post was edited on 7/15/22 at 5:12 pm
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