Started By
Message

re: Chicago Bulls Guard Jaden Ivey waived for "anti-LGBTQ" comments

Posted on 3/31/26 at 5:56 am to
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
20113 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 5:56 am to
quote:

I’m sure if he was Muslim it would have been celebrated


Not just Muslim. The only people ever condemned for speak truth of their beliefs are Christians. Everyone else... Muslim, LGBTQMXY, atheists, etc... all get to say and do and be a victim while at it.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
28024 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 6:10 am to
quote:

Nothing in the Bible tells us to worship saints, angels or even to pray to anyone except the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.
Except Jesus started the Catholic Church and made Peter essentially the first pope. Catholicism is literally the religion started from Jesus Christ.
Posted by UKWildcats
Lexington, KY
Member since Mar 2015
19978 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 6:20 am to
Well, he's right. Good for him
Posted by msutiger
Houston
Member since Jul 2008
71995 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 6:34 am to
quote:

He said told no lies.

Belief in Christ is purely belief that Jesus Christ is the Son of God, who rose from the deas to save us from our sins.

Nothing in the Bible tells us to worship saints, angels or even to pray to anyone except the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.


Good thing Catholics don't worship saints and angels
Posted by ShakeandBake
Member since Aug 2019
1236 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 8:18 am to
If you aren't silent or actively celebrating the alphabet cause, they will come for you. If you're a player of questionable value, you're gone. If you're a superstar, you would issue a statement written for you saying you were wrong and have been educated in the right way of thinking.
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
20113 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 8:33 am to
quote:

Except Jesus started the Catholic Church and made Peter essentially the first pope. Catholicism is literally the religion started from Jesus Christ.


Show me Bibically where Jesus started the Catholic Church?

Show me Biblically where Jesus made a "Pope" or where the word "Pope" was ever even mentioned in the Bible?

Catholicism was a result of Disciples going to countries to spread the message of Jesus and Pagans mixing their customs, traditions and beliefs into the belief in Christ to create a playable version they leadership could accept then push to the people.

I'll even ask where in the Bible it says we should pray to Mary, angels, etc? The Bible is very clear; though shalt serve, pray and believe in no other but Me (Father, Son and Holy Ghost).
Posted by WeareLATech
Member since Sep 2021
554 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 8:35 am to
quote:

If you aren't silent or actively celebrating the alphabet cause, they will come for you


Because its easier to create divide by using less than one percent.
Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
25479 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 9:03 am to
quote:

Chicago Bulls Guard Jaden Ivey waived for "anti-LGBTQ" comments



They said this, but I think he was actually waived because he's a fricking nutcase.
Posted by msutiger
Houston
Member since Jul 2008
71995 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 9:28 am to
quote:

Show me Bibically where Jesus started the Catholic Church?


Post resurrection Jesus tells Peter to tend to his flock (John 21). Jesus also tells Peter that he specifically has prayed that his faith wont fail and to lead this brethren (Luke 22).

quote:

Show me Biblically where Jesus made a "Pope" or where the word "Pope" was ever even mentioned in the Bible?


Where is the trinity mentioned

quote:

Catholicism was a result of Disciples going to countries to spread the message of Jesus and Pagans mixing their customs, traditions and beliefs into the belief in Christ to create a playable version they leadership could accept then push to the people.


Apostolic tradition comes directly from Jesus' disciples. This is mentioned by Ignatius and most importantly by Clement. Ignatius was a disciple of John. They did not make things up as they went alone. Teaching were handed down from the original apostles.

quote:

I'll even ask where in the Bible it says we should pray to Mary, angels, etc? The Bible is very clear; though shalt serve, pray and believe in no other but Me (Father, Son and Holy Ghost).


We don't pray to them, we ask for their prayers to God. We ask Mary and the Saints to pray for us the same way we ask for a friend to pray for us. The most popular Catholic book about Mary is True Devotion to Mary and St. Louis de Montfort sets things straight from the outset. He calls it the essential principle of the entire work. "Jesus, our Saviour, true God and true man, must be the ultimate end of all our other devotions; otherwise they would be false and misleading." He goes on: "He is the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and end of everything." Catholics are not worshiping Mary, but was ask for her intercession. Mary has played an pivotal role in the church from the Church Fathers. So much so that she was the source of attack in pagan writings during the early church.
Posted by CoachRay
Member since Jul 2019
192 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 9:38 am to
quote:

How’d I know that your definition of mental melt down was “spoke about Christ” and literally nothing else.

To be fair, he was posting hours long videos of him sitting in his car incoherently rambling about religion and was calling random people in his comments that expressed concern for him sinners. He's obviously got something going on.
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
20113 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 9:46 am to
quote:

Post resurrection Jesus tells Peter to tend to his flock (John 21). Jesus also tells Peter that he specifically has prayed that his faith wont fail and to lead this brethren (Luke 22).


This is a misrepresentation of the Word. No where here did Jesus say his flock was Catholic. No where did he say they were represented by a Pope. The Lord's flock he was speaking directly about at that time were the people he came to change.... Israelites mislead by Pharisees and Sadducees. The purpose was to turn them back to Christ.

Peter's ministry wasn't eveb initially the gentiles. It was Saul who then was turned into Paul who pushed the message to the gentiles and was the catalyst to missionaries to the world.

Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
20113 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 9:48 am to
quote:

Where is the trinity mentioned


Matthew 28:19

Jesus instructed his disciples: "baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit"
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
20113 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 9:51 am to
quote:

Apostolic tradition comes directly from Jesus' disciples. This is mentioned by Ignatius and most importantly by Clement. Ignatius was a disciple of John. They did not make things up as they went alone. Teaching were handed down from the original apostles.


Yes people who were gentiles from Pagan countries who mixed their original beliefs with Jesus preaching.

None of this is in the Bible.


quote:

We don't pray to them, we ask for their prayers to God. We ask Mary and the Saints to pray for us the same way we ask for a friend to pray for us.


Where in the Bible does Jesus instruct us to pray to or speak to the dead or angels to communicate to the Father for us?

The Bible is very clear; the ONLY way to the Father is through praying, speaking and interceding through Jesus Christ. When the Bible speaks of joining brethren, it only references the Church and those living.

Please show me where Jesus or anyone in the Bible sought someone dead or an angel after Jesus died on the cross for our sins?
Posted by msutiger
Houston
Member since Jul 2008
71995 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 10:00 am to
quote:

This is a misrepresentation of the Word. No where here did Jesus say his flock was Catholic.


Catholic means universal. The great commission.

quote:

No where did he say they were represented by a Pope.


Once again, the theology of the trinity is also not mentioned. The same argument is made by people that say Jesus never called himself God.

quote:

The Lord's flock he was speaking directly about at that time were the people he came to change.... Israelites mislead by Pharisees and Sadducees.


Wait what? Are you saying Jesus did not come for the gentiles? I dont agree with the idea that Jesus came for the Jews, was rejected and went to plan B with the gentiles'.

quote:

The purpose was to turn them back to Christ.


The purpose is to turn all to Christ.

quote:

Peter's ministry wasn't eveb initially the gentiles. It was Saul who then was turned into Paul who pushed the message to the gentiles and was the catalyst to missionaries to the world.


That doesn't change my point. Christ's flock is all of humanity. Not sons of Abraham. If Jesus was sent just to the Israelites then the Great Commission collapses.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
27590 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 10:04 am to
What are we bitching about in this thread?

The professional sports have proven time and time again that if you're good enough you'll get a pass on doing stupid shite.

Ivey isnt worth the headache. Pretty cut and dry.
Posted by msutiger
Houston
Member since Jul 2008
71995 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 10:16 am to
quote:

Matthew 28:19

Jesus instructed his disciples: "baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit"



Right you proved my point. The word trinity isnt in scripture but the reality is there.

quote:

Yes people who were gentiles from Pagan countries who mixed their original beliefs with Jesus preaching.

None of this is in the Bible.


Where exactly does this happen, because we have writings from the first century from Ignatius and Clement that describe the structure of the church?

quote:

Where in the Bible does Jesus instruct us to pray to or speak to the dead or angels to communicate to the Father for us?

The Bible is very clear; the ONLY way to the Father is through praying, speaking and interceding through Jesus Christ. When the Bible speaks of joining brethren, it only references the Church and those living.

Please show me where Jesus or anyone in the Bible sought someone dead or an angel after Jesus died on the cross for our sins?


So by this point, it is unbiblical to ask anyone to pray for you?

Im glad you use the word living, because in Luke 20 all are alive to God. Therefor they can worship and pray.
This post was edited on 3/31/26 at 10:20 am
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
28024 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 10:43 am to
quote:

Show me Bibically where Jesus started the Catholic Church?


Matthew 16:18-19
“And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it. I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.”


Jesus gave Peter the authority to make decisions on behalf of the church. “Bind” means forbid and “loose” means permit. He’s essentially declaring him head of the church. That church, started by Christ, who appointed Peter as its head, has an unbroken line of leaders, which came to be called “popes”.


quote:

I'll even ask where in the Bible it says we should pray to Mary, angels, etc? The Bible is very clear; though shalt serve, pray and believe in no other but Me (Father, Son and Holy Ghost).
We don’t pray TO Mary or anyone else but God. We ask that Mary, for example, pray FOR us. There’s a difference.
This post was edited on 3/31/26 at 10:45 am
Posted by hg
Member since Jun 2009
128295 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 10:49 am to
Steve Kerr can get up there and go on the long political rants and talk shite about Trump, but Ivey mentions some religious shite on his own time and he gets released lol.

NBA
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
61024 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 12:14 pm to
quote:

If he was a solid starter this would have been ignored


Professional sports and often life in general, ladies and gentlemen.
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
20113 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 12:22 pm to
quote:

Catholic means universal. The great commission


None of this was in the Bible. As I said earlier "Catholicism" was created from Pagans mixing their own traditions, culture and ideology with the message of missionaries whose only message was belief in Jesus Christ as the son of God.

quote:

Once again, the theology of the trinity is also not mentioned. The same argument is made by people that say Jesus never called himself God.


This is incorrect. For one I never used the terminology "Trinity". That is a term you introduced.

I pointed out that in the Bible it's speaks directly about God the Father, Jesus Christ the Son and the Holy Ghost. I then provided where Jesus instructed his disciples in Matthew 28:19;

"baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit"

quote:

Wait what? Are you saying Jesus did not come for the gentiles? I dont agree with the idea that Jesus came for the Jews, was rejected and went to plan B with the gentiles'.



Yes, what Jesus did came with steps it wasn't a failed mission or a plan b as you stated.

The first step was to turn back his people (Israelite/Jews) back to God and away from the mislead and evil of the Pharisees and Sadducees. They are what is discussed in Romans as the original or natural branch of the olive tree.

It was after this the next step was grafting the gentiles into the olive tree. See Romans chapter 11.


quote:

That doesn't change my point. Christ's flock is all of humanity.


I never disagreed with that. You created a strawman argument.



first pageprev pagePage 3 of 6Next pagelast page

Back to top
logoFollow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News
Follow us on X, Facebook and Instagram to get the latest updates on LSU Football and Recruiting.

FacebookXInstagram