- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Coaching Changes
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: CFB teams robbed of a National Title
Posted on 11/9/20 at 11:40 am to SoFla Tideroller
Posted on 11/9/20 at 11:40 am to SoFla Tideroller
quote:
never remember that PSU team as this vaunted monster. In fact, it wasn't until I joined Tigerdroppings and these periodic discussions pop up did I ever hear '94 Penn State described as this mythical juggernaut.
Same here. No doubt they are a great team. Anybody who goes undefeated in a P5 is a great team. I’d wager that some of those 1-loss Ohio State teams under Cooper were better, though.
0
Posted on 11/11/20 at 9:24 am to H-Town Tiger
quote:
Not really the 83 team was 10-1 the 1 loss was 20-7 loss at home to Texas who’s only loss was by 1 in the Cotton Bowl. With a lack luster Sugar Bowl win hard to argue Auburn should be #1 over Miami who beat the team that was #1 all year.
I could see an argument for Texas or maybe even Nebraska but no way Miami deserved the title over Auburn. Prior to the Nebraska game they beat one team that finished ranked all season and got destroyed by Florida.
Auburn played one of the most difficult schedules of all time prior to conference championship games and playoffs. Their last 5 games were against teams in the Top 20 and 4 in the top 8.
Posted on 11/11/20 at 9:33 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Auburn 2004
Posted on 11/11/20 at 9:52 am to RandySavage
quote:
I could see an argument for Texas or maybe even Nebraska but no way Miami deserved the title over Auburn. Prior to the Nebraska game they beat one team that finished ranked all season and got destroyed by Florida
Fair enough but they lost to Florida week 1 28-3 Auburn lost to Texas 20-7 that’s not that big of a difference. Nebraska and Texas screwed the pooch by losing each by 1. Nebraska also could have just kicked the PAT and probably would have won it. This is a season we needed the BCS. Nebraska vs Texas no debate
Posted on 11/11/20 at 9:54 am to Tiger Prawn
quote:
Auburn 2004
Question for all those saying Auburn 2004. Who should have been left out? And whoever it was would be here saying they were screwed
Posted on 11/11/20 at 10:00 am to H-Town Tiger
quote:
Fair enough but they lost to Florida week 1 28-3 Auburn lost to Texas 20-7 that’s not that big of a difference.
It's almost a 2 touchdown difference but semantics really. What separates them is the schedule and that tilts in Auburn's favor and it's not even close.
An Auburn, Miami, Texas, Nebraska playoff would have been nice.
Posted on 11/11/20 at 10:00 am to RandySavage
quote:
Auburn 83 and obviously 04
I’ll die on the hill of 1983 Auburn being hosed
2004 sucked but the system was designed to suck for a year like that one with three undefeated AQ teams.
This post was edited on 11/11/20 at 10:01 am
Posted on 11/11/20 at 10:05 am to Ross
Aub 2004 probably deserved a shot at the title but were they beating usc? Likely not especially given they played the previous two seasons with sc winning both.
Posted on 11/11/20 at 10:06 am to nvasil1
quote:
Washington and Miami could've both beaten that OU team.
I dunno, that team had some magic on their side and a great offense.
Auburn should have played USC for the '04 natty.
FSU beat 6 ranked teams in '93 including Notre Dame in South Bend, so that worked out. The Irish got payback from Boston College for running it up on them the previous year.
**Oof. FSU lost in South Bend, but their overall body of work was better anyway.
This post was edited on 11/11/20 at 10:54 am
Posted on 11/11/20 at 10:12 am to cramps
quote:
FSU beat 6 ranked teams in '93 including Notre Dame in South Bend,
They lost to Notre Dame...
Posted on 11/11/20 at 10:15 am to Ross
quote:
I’ll die on the hill of 1983 Auburn being hosed
Give me the argument for Auburn over Texas who beat you at Auburn 20-7
Posted on 11/11/20 at 10:54 am to H-Town Tiger
Auburn played the tougher schedule between those two teams (and I don’t recall it being particularly close, but I think some more modern analytics can tell us just how far apart the resumes were). But I'm fairly confident in claiming that Auburn faced the nation’s most difficult schedule of any contender in 1983, including 7 opponents that were ranked in the top 20. Of their 12 opponents faced during 1983, 10 finished the season with a winning record and 9 appeared in a bowl game.
And I know you don’t personally put any credence to the notion of losing later mattering any more or less than losing early, but if you were someone that did think games later in the season should be weighted more heavily, they did lose their last game to Georgia; a team Auburn had beaten only a few weeks prior, and the H2H game between Auburn and Texas occurred in Week 2.
And I know you don’t personally put any credence to the notion of losing later mattering any more or less than losing early, but if you were someone that did think games later in the season should be weighted more heavily, they did lose their last game to Georgia; a team Auburn had beaten only a few weeks prior, and the H2H game between Auburn and Texas occurred in Week 2.
This post was edited on 11/11/20 at 11:01 am
Posted on 11/11/20 at 11:10 am to Ross
its not just later, they lost the bowl 
I could along with lost later if Auburn had lost to someone else or if it was at Austin week 2 but head to head loss at home is tougher sell for me.
Auburn definitely has great case on the overall resume
I could along with lost later if Auburn had lost to someone else or if it was at Austin week 2 but head to head loss at home is tougher sell for me. Auburn definitely has great case on the overall resume
Posted on 11/11/20 at 11:17 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
A few years ago I watched the full game on YouTube. And the game wasn't as close as the final score indicated. Notre Dame jumped out to a 24-7 lead in the 3rd quarter. Florida St. only made it interesting late in the 4th quarter on a fluke tipped pass.
Unfortunately for Notre Dame, they laid a big fat egg at home the next week. I remember watching that too live in my youth completely baffled how that happened.
Unfortunately for Notre Dame, they laid a big fat egg at home the next week. I remember watching that too live in my youth completely baffled how that happened.
Posted on 11/11/20 at 11:20 am to H-Town Tiger
quote:
its not just later, they lost the bowl I could along with lost later if Auburn had lost to someone else or if it was at Austin week 2 but head to head loss at home is tougher sell for me.
well for someone on my side the argument it is quite the inconvenient data point
but I think on strength of resume they can overcome that data point. A cursory glance on Texas schedule and it looks far inferior
Posted on 11/11/20 at 11:32 am to H-Town Tiger
quote:
its not just later, they lost the bowl I could along with lost later if Auburn had lost to someone else or if it was at Austin week 2 but head to head loss at home is tougher sell for me.
There’s no substitute for the head to head matchup. Texas literally fumbled away an opportunity, and I mentioned Auburn in my original post as someone who had a great resume’, but this logic does dictate that Texas has a case too.
This is similar to the crowd who loves 2000 Miami, but won’t mention the same Washington team that beat the Canes.
Posted on 11/11/20 at 11:33 am to S
quote:
Likely not especially given they played the previous two seasons with sc winning both.
UGA and LSU both whooped us worse than USC in 03 and we beat both (UGA easily) in 04. Of all the arguments that's the worst one.
Posted on 11/11/20 at 11:35 am to RandySavage
Bruh jason Campbell wasn’t beating that usc team
Posted on 11/11/20 at 11:35 am to H-Town Tiger
quote:
Give me the argument for Auburn over Texas who beat you at Auburn 20-7
First game of the season vs. last game of the season, and that used to be a big deal.
Auburn's schedule was exponentially harder.
Posted on 11/11/20 at 11:35 am to S
quote:
Bruh jason Campbell wasn’t beating that usc team
1st round draft pick and SEC POTY? Had a better career than Matt Leinart.
Al Borges was our Joe Brady
This post was edited on 11/11/20 at 11:36 am
Page 4 of 7
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News