re: Carson Palmer under fire for Joe Burrow comments ahead of Super Bowl

It totally sounds like something Palmer would do but definitely don’t see Burrow having that same reaction.

Isn’t he the same person that started the “Burrow shouldn’t go to Cincy” talk before the draft.

Also the timing of the comment is pretty shitty too, they are 2 days away from playing in the SB.

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That in no way contradicts itself

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So deserve doesn’t equal market value in your thought process.

Sounds like Carson is jealous that Joe did in 1 year what he couldn't do in 8 years.

Maybe read the text and the subtext.

Because I clearly was implying the QB deserves to be paid for his talent and services, but if said QB is actually interested in winning they would consider giving the team a haircut on their contract.

And we're also discussing the difference in them getting paid 35 million a year vs. 15-25 million a year. Fair market value is out the window here because these are grown men splitting hairs on contracts to play a kid's game.

How much will Joe Burrow's life change if he has to all of a sudden live off of 20 million a year instead of 35 million a year?

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How much will Joe Burrow's life change if he has to all of a sudden live off of 20 million a year instead of 35 million a year?

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That adds up to somewhere between 75-150 million over the course of a 5-10 year long contract that QBs can sign these days

Tom Brady more than made up for those "lost wages" via endorsements and deals he was able to swing via his talent and image as a champion. Win ball games and titles, and the brands will write you a blank check.

I get what you're saying about money being left on the table, but the QB in question would still be sitting on 100-200 million if they had a 20 mill a year deal over the course of 5-10 years.

They're more than taken care of, and as I mentioned about Tom, they can use sponsorships to bridge that gap in "lost wages".

They're still taking home generational wealth with either path, I just personally see max QB contracts as stupid and a way to handicap your team's chances at winning year in and year out. I'd rather win like crazy and take home a paltry 100-200 million, than take home 350 million and be known as the guy who never won anything.

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Tom Brady more than made up for those "lost wages" via endorsements and deals he was able to swing via his talent and image as a champion. Win ball games and titles, and the brands will write you a blank check.

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That’s not how it works. No matter how much endorsement money you make, it doesn’t change the missed opportunity for that 75-150 million.

Plus Brady had the benefit of a super rich wife

And the brands will write you a blank check regardless of your superbowls if you’re good and a good personality.

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get what you're saying about money being left on the table, but the QB in question would still be sitting on 100-200 million if they had a 20 mill a year deal over the course of 5-10 years.

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It’s a lot easier to tell someone else to turn down that much money

Gaining wealth isn’t just about living a comfortable life, at a certain point it becomes about generational wealth.

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They're more than taken care of, and as I mentioned about Tom, they can use sponsorships to bridge that gap in "lost wages".

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You’re overstating how much real money brady left on the table, and how much sponsorships have made up for it. Brady sacrificed by putting himself in a worse contractural situation at times to allow the team freedom to make moves, but he still is at the very top end of QB earners during that time. Now he probably left some bucks on the table towards the end of his career when the QB salaries basically doubled over the course of a few years- at that point yes he wasn’t really concerned about getting every dollar on the contract. But make no mistake he still made elite QB money during his career.

Also guess what? Those endorsements are an actual job! Those companies are paying for your time and effort. It’s not like you’re just getting an endorsement check for being good at football, choosing to “make up” that money in endorsements is going to take up a huge portion of your already limited off time during your career.

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They're still taking home generational wealth with either path, I just personally see max QB contracts as stupid and a way to handicap your team's chances at winning year in and year out. I'd rather win like crazy and take home a paltry 100-200 million, than take home 350 million and be known as the guy who never won anything.

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Again, super easy to tell someone else to walk away from 150 million dollars. Might not be so easy if it were actually in front of you.

Also there’s a massive gulf of possibilities between those two choices. As I mentioned with the Brady deals, there’s a number of ways to get paid your market value and still allow your team to have the cap flexibility and cash it needs to make the moves it needs to do to win.


ETA and none of this takes into account that Burrow could have a career ending or career altering injury at any point. We’re making so many assumptions about a lot of things to come with getting paid less: staying healthy, staying elite, winning, winning superbowls, hell winning on Sunday). Not getting paid doesn’t guarantee any of those things

Palmer is jealous he couldn’t do what Burrow has done in his first full year.

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might be a bit off, but I know Mahomes was .5B/10 yrs.

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Mahommes has a very team friendly deal. The overall number means nothing.

He left here butthurt. Take Carson's with a grain of salt. Troy and Katie Blackburn are running the show now, Mike Brown basically just has veto power but has quit messing with stuff. We've got a GM. We finally built a ring of honor.

A shite load of stuff has changed in Cincinnati in the past couple of years. The way business was done when Carson was here....my God we drafted him 20 yrs ago. Cmon.