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re: Cards send Miller to braves...get Heyward

Posted on 11/17/14 at 2:05 pm to
Posted by TheGasMan
Member since Oct 2014
3485 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 2:05 pm to
Atleast UH isn't up in here being a big fgt yet.
Posted by broeho
Atlanta, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
1815 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 2:05 pm to
I really, really don't understand the braves' moves. I guess it had something to do with money?

Heyward was 17th in baseball in WAR in a season where he was bad at the plate. He has so much upside at the plate, he's still young... and yet his downside is last season. A year where he was 17th in WAR. Cards got him CHEAP.
Posted by crimsonian
Florida
Member since Jun 2012
7374 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 2:06 pm to
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God you are a fricktard. The fact you are also a Gump is just perfect.


Two things for you to be mad about. Bama owns those kittens and now Freeman boots Heyward out of Atlanta. This is a great day.
Posted by Patron Saint
Member since Jul 2013
4214 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 2:13 pm to
Who is going to replace Heyward in RF that you think is going to be so awesome?
Posted by Louie T
Member since Dec 2006
36724 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 2:14 pm to
How do you feel about BMac's 2.89 ERA, 1.15 WHIP, & 82K in 90 innings in a Yankee uni?
Posted by okietiger
Chelsea F.C. Fan
Member since Oct 2005
42477 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 2:23 pm to
Don't engage him. I honestly thought he was a stupid troll but he's dead serious.

Dumbest ATL poster there is. And that's saying something.
Posted by Wishnitwas1998
where TN, MS, and AL meet
Member since Oct 2010
64515 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 2:30 pm to
Y'all all make me want to be a Braves poster, not a braves fan, a Braves poster. It looks fun
Posted by beaver
The 755 Club
Member since Sep 2009
46861 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 2:40 pm to
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David O'Brien @DOBrienAJC
#Braves Hart: "It’s hard for some fans. They really don’t care – one year, we want him here, sign him at all costs....


quote:

David O'Brien @DOBrienAJC
more Hart (2/2) "... I just don’t know that Jason was going to stay here."


quote:

David O'Brien @DOBrienAJC
More Hart on Heyward pending free agency: "We would not have been where we wanted to be if we played this out..." (1/2)


quote:

David O'Brien @DOBrienAJC
More Hart on Heyward free agency (2/2): "... and had not been able to solve our starting pitching. There’s a lot of dynamics in place."
Posted by CatFan81
Decatur, GA
Member since May 2009
47188 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 2:40 pm to
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crimsonian


You are one dumb son of a bitch.
Posted by okietiger
Chelsea F.C. Fan
Member since Oct 2005
42477 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 3:11 pm to
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
290856 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 3:20 pm to
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But it's become fairly clear that he's not going to develop into that 1-2 front of the rotation pitcher


I love how he's getting written off. The dude has the stuff and is a tweak here or there from being really good. If I'm the Braves I'm happy to have him. People were saying the same thing about Max Scherzer & jeff samardjza after a few years.
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
97016 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 3:23 pm to
And he started putting things together at the end of last year. As a Cards fan i understand the trade, but i certainly would have like to hold onto Miller. This thread could be the exact opposite though and Braves fans would bitch. It really doesnt matter.
Posted by kilo
No block, no rock
Member since Oct 2011
30159 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 3:25 pm to
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I love how he's getting written off.


Who is "writing him off"? Being a solid middle of rotation guy is nothing to sneeze at and with Jenkins included it could be a good trade down the road for the Braves, I dont know.

Saying he isnt going to be an ace type isn't writing him off. He has knocks, cant learn to throw breaking/curve consistently. Velocity varies to much. Hard to coach. Can that stuff improve? Sure. Will it? Dont know and neither do you. I trust the Cardinals talent evaluation at this point in time.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
290856 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 3:27 pm to
Saying it's fairly certain thst he'll never be a 1-2 is writing him off from ever been a 1-2. Unless I'm reading that wrong.

A 25 year old with a 95mph fastball is hardly a finished product.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
63398 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 3:28 pm to
I said it on like page three but I still don't understand why the Braves fans are melting so hard over this. Miller is at worst a solid mid rotation guy (with control until 2019) and Jenkins has a lot of potential. Much better than the comp pick they would have gotten when Heyward walked
This post was edited on 11/17/14 at 3:29 pm
Posted by beaver
The 755 Club
Member since Sep 2009
46861 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 3:32 pm to
I think I'm the only Braves fan okay with this deal...I fully expected and prepared myself for the rebuild. Wren REALLY fricked us over, especially in the minors. This is Chapter 7 liquidation so that we can be back in a few years, rather than hold these guys and end up jumping off a bridge in 2 years due to depression.

I don't know why anyone is shitting on Miller. He is so young, he has all the abilities to still become a number 1 starter with the right coaching. I LOVE Jenkins...he got injured last year but everything I've read is he has been a AFL monster and has a really bright future.
Posted by piggidyphish
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2009
18880 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 3:33 pm to
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why the Braves fans are melting so hard over this


first stage of coping with a rebuild.

Just wait until Justin Upton is dealt.
Posted by stlslick
St.Louis,Mo
Member since Nov 2012
14967 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 3:35 pm to
Doesn't dealing Heyward give Braves flexibility to resign Upton? They weren't going to resign both.
Posted by Dale Murphy
God's Country
Member since Feb 2005
24964 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 3:36 pm to
I wish I could feel sad about a power hitting right fielder hitting 250 with 10 Hrs getting traded.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
63398 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 3:36 pm to
I guess as an Astros fan I have a different perspective, but this is the way you want to go. This is not a bad deal. And I agree with Lester that Miller could become much more than he is now. And if he doesn't there's only a handful of guys in the majors right who have put up numbers like his in their first two years worth of starts
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