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Can someone explain why/how JMU got in?
Posted on 12/7/25 at 5:15 pm
Posted on 12/7/25 at 5:15 pm
I know TULANE , as the highest ranked group of 5 champ , is automatically in, but why JMU?
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Posted on 12/7/25 at 5:16 pm to kjntgr
5 highest ranked conference champs are automatic qualifiers.
They were one of the 5 highest ranked conference champions.
They were one of the 5 highest ranked conference champions.
Posted on 12/7/25 at 5:16 pm to kjntgr
They were in the top five (5) highest ranked conference champions.
Posted on 12/7/25 at 5:16 pm to kjntgr
Tulane got in as one of the 4 highest ranked conference champions, because the ACC champ was so bad. So JMU gets the highest ranked group of 5 champion slot.
Posted on 12/7/25 at 5:17 pm to kjntgr
I'd assume ACC essentially forfeited a conference championship autobid with 5 loss duke winning the conference, and that spot going to the next best conference winner ?
Posted on 12/7/25 at 5:17 pm to TigerFanatic99
Oh ok; so they are automatically in, when DUKE WON?
Posted on 12/7/25 at 5:18 pm to kjntgr
quote:
know TULANE , as the highest ranked group of 5 champ , is automatically in, but why JMU?
Because the top 5 conference champions automatically got in
1. Indiana
2. Georgia
3. Texas Tech
4. Tulane
5. JMU
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6. Duke
That rule didn’t account for the PAC 12 dissolving and the ACC sucking
This post was edited on 12/7/25 at 5:20 pm
Posted on 12/7/25 at 5:18 pm to kjntgr
quote:
I know TULANE , as the highest ranked group of 5 champ , is automatically in, but why JMU?
Because Duke beat Virginia, and JMU is ranked ahead of Duke the ACC conference champion.
Posted on 12/7/25 at 5:20 pm to chalmetteowl
Because the ACC was terrible this year and the PAC10 doesn’t exist so we have too many conference champions required to be in the 12 teams.
Posted on 12/7/25 at 5:28 pm to kjntgr
Muh 12 best teams
Posted on 12/7/25 at 5:31 pm to 632627
No conference has an autobid. The top 5 conference champions are autobids regardless of who they are
Posted on 12/7/25 at 5:33 pm to blackandgolddude
quote:
Tulane got in as one of the 4 highest ranked conference champions, because the ACC champ was so bad. So JMU gets the highest ranked group of 5 champion slot.
Which is better than giving a bad P4 champ a pass.
Posted on 12/7/25 at 11:26 pm to Bestbank Tiger
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Which is better than giving a bad P4 champ a pass.
I need to know Duke’s budget compared to JMU’s and the average ACC budget compared to the Sun Belt
Seems like the top conference champs should account for how strong the conferences were
Posted on 12/8/25 at 6:16 am to chalmetteowl
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Because the top 5 conference champions automatically got in
quote:No, it did account for the Pac 12 not existing. The rule was clearly intended to have the P4 champs + the highest ranked G5(6?) champ, but you can't specifically list the conferences by name- that would be a violation of some rules.
That rule didn’t account for the PAC 12 dissolving and the ACC sucking
The idea with the ACC, is that surely a conference with Clemson, Florida State, Miami, Louisville etc would have a conference champ ranked higher than ONE of the Sun Belt and AAC. The problem is the tiebreakers, Duke had insane luck. They lost 3 non-conference games, but somehow won the tiebreaker over Miami and Georgia Tech (ranked teams), and then beat UVA (another ranked team). Thus you get an unranked conference champ. And since the voters gave Tulane and JMU the "cinderella nod of recognition" and ranked them at/near the bottom of the Top 25, that put both teams above Duke.
And remember, "conference champs" was done to prevent stuff like when Ohio State got into the 4 team field and Penn State didn't, even though Penn State won the Big 10 that year. It was meant to reward winning the conference.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 6:30 am to 632627
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I'd assume ACC essentially forfeited a conference championship autobid with 5 loss duke winning the conference, and that spot going to the next best conference winner ?
There are no “conference auto-bids”. It’s simply 5 highest ranked conference champions, and having a 5 loss team with losses to UConn is a great way to be ranked behind Tulane and JMU
Posted on 12/8/25 at 7:57 am to kjntgr
FCS gets it right and has a true playoff, but FBS never will because of the money schools.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 8:04 am to Scoob
This is correct, and the ACC didn’t put in tiebreakers to prevent this.
Other conferences use rankings to help determine the conference championship, and the acc didnt, so they are really the only conference that this could realistically happen to
Other conferences use rankings to help determine the conference championship, and the acc didnt, so they are really the only conference that this could realistically happen to
Posted on 12/8/25 at 8:08 am to Scoob
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but you can't specifically list the conferences by name- that would be a violation of some rules.
So you can't list the conferences by name that would get an autobid because of "rules" but you can list one school (ND) that gets an autobid??? Make any of this bullshite make sense.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 8:08 am to chalmetteowl
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That rule didn’t account for the PAC 12 dissolving
The rule was initially going to be the top 6 conference champions, they were always going to try to throw the G5 a bone for some reason. But they didn’t account for the ACC having terrible conference championship tiebreakers, which most assuredly will be fixed in the offseason.
The CFP also needs some sort of threshold for who gets invited regardless of conference champions, you should have to be a top 15 team.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 8:09 am to Remulan
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So you can't list the conferences by name that would get an autobid because of "rules" but you can list one school (ND) that gets an autobid???
What are you talking about? No teams or conferences are specifically pointed out in the auto-bid selection.
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