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re: Can someone explain to me the LHSAA split?
Posted on 12/3/18 at 8:38 pm to chalmetteowl
Posted on 12/3/18 at 8:38 pm to chalmetteowl
That is a definitive plus for the smaller schools. They did it back when Curtis was bumped down in 2005. They faced Curtis and got whipped. Then their enrollment magically dropped. 
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Posted on 12/3/18 at 8:45 pm to 337Tiger19
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Unlike most states, the private schools are under the same governing body as the public. Hence, chaos.
Yet you split them and everyone bitches
Posted on 12/3/18 at 8:45 pm to Big Bill
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No doubt Coach Cook is a great coach, but my daughter could get them to the semi finals with the talent they bring in from Crowley, Church Point, Rayne, Jennings, Welsh, and the area for 30 miles around them. It simply isnt fair to the publics who are following the rules.
Have you seen that “talent” they’re “bringing in”? I’m guessing you haven’t because they’re pretty much a whole bunch of overachieving white kids that just flat out work harder than the other team. And yeah, coaching has a LOT to do with it. How many kids from Notre Dame go on to play college football? Now compare that to Crowley, Church Point, and even Rayne. Now compare that to schools like Breaux Bridge, whom Notre Dame whips up on every single year. Breaux Bridge has a kid that’s a either a sophomore or junior (WR) that’s already been offered by ull. How many offers do the Notre Dame kids have? Teurlings? STM?
Aside from what Lca is doing, the private schools in the Lafayette area are a bunch of hard working overachieving white kids that are very disciplined and have the smarts to out think their opponent.
This is coming from someone that graduated from a public high school and used to despise those private schools. (My kids have all attended and a couple still attend private school)
After taking a step back I realized that those overachieving White kids were going toe to toe with those “highly athletic” public schools and winning. Why? Because of coaching, discipline, and out working their opponent, which I’ve come to sincerely appreciate and have a newfound respect for.
With that being said I do hope the private schools split completely from the public’s and the public’s eventually get the shaft with a cactus. Why? Because I’m sick and tired of the public’s expecting everything to be handed to them......in typical “democrat” mentality. That’s why Louisiana’s public school system is asswax. ZERO accountability and too much good ol boy politics. WAY too much.
This post was edited on 12/3/18 at 8:47 pm
Posted on 12/3/18 at 8:50 pm to 31TIGERS
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Have you seen that “talent” they’re “bringing in”? I’m guessing you haven’t because they’re pretty much a whole bunch of overachieving white kids that just flat out work harder than the other team. And yeah, coaching has a LOT to do with it. How many kids from Notre Dame go on to play college football? Now compare that to Crowley, Church Point, and even Rayne. Now compare that to schools like Breaux Bridge, whom Notre Dame whips up on every single year. Breaux Bridge has a kid that’s a either a sophomore or junior (WR) that’s already been offered by ull. How many offers do the Notre Dame kids have? Teurlings? STM?
Aside from what Lca is doing, the private schools in the Lafayette area are a bunch of hard working overachieving white kids that are very disciplined and have the smarts to out think their opponent.
This is coming from someone that graduated from a public high school and used to despise those private schools. (My kids have all attended and a couple still attend private school)
After taking a step back I realized that those overachieving White kids were going toe to toe with those “highly athletic” public schools and winning. Why? Because of coaching, discipline, and out working their opponent, which I’ve come to sincerely appreciate and have a newfound respect for.
With that being said I do hope the private schools split completely from the public’s and the public’s eventually get the shaft with a cactus. Why? Because I’m sick and tired of the public’s expecting everything to be handed to them......in typical “democrat” mentality. That’s why Louisiana’s public school system is asswax. ZERO accountability and too much good ol boy politics. WAY too much.
Bingo we have a winner.
ND had really 3 feeder schools. How many does Teurlings and STM have? Like 5 or 6 correct?
Posted on 12/3/18 at 8:57 pm to Double Oh
Did LA ever try the multiplier for private schools? Alabama use to have a 1.35 that could bump teams from a lower class to a higher class for the entire athletic program.
Now they use a point system that judges how a team has fared in relation to their success, but it only affects that 1 particular sport. Madison Academy for example moved from 3A to 4A with the regular multiplier, but now with the new rule they are 5A in football & basketball with similar enrollment numbers because of their great success in 4A with the regular multiplier. However, in other not so great sports they are still 4A like softball.
Now they use a point system that judges how a team has fared in relation to their success, but it only affects that 1 particular sport. Madison Academy for example moved from 3A to 4A with the regular multiplier, but now with the new rule they are 5A in football & basketball with similar enrollment numbers because of their great success in 4A with the regular multiplier. However, in other not so great sports they are still 4A like softball.
Posted on 12/3/18 at 9:00 pm to Double Oh
You think I cant count? 5 parishes easily...Acadia, Jeff Davis, St Landry, Vermilion and Lafayette for sure. And probably a few from southern Evangeline.
ND may have 3 official "feeder" schools, but how many unofficial feeder schools do they recruit? When you control your enrollment, you control your destiny.
ND may have 3 official "feeder" schools, but how many unofficial feeder schools do they recruit? When you control your enrollment, you control your destiny.
Posted on 12/3/18 at 9:03 pm to Big Bill
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ou think I cant count? 5 parishes easily...Acadia, Jeff Davis, St Landry, Vermilion and Lafayette for sure. And probably a few from southern Evangeline.
ND may have 3 official "feeder" schools, but how many unofficial feeder schools do they recruit? When you control your enrollment, you control your destiny.
Yep you dumb. Louie dont recruit get your facts straight
Posted on 12/3/18 at 9:10 pm to 31TIGERS
When my daughter was running track back 2007-11 time frame, Southern Lab girls track was winning their 14th (IIRC, maybe just 13) consecutive 1A state championship. Now I realize they had a hell of a coach, and girls track isn't the most competitive sport in the world, but come on. Lab was drawing from a metro area of 750,000 people but keeping their enrollment at 1A levels, competing against little towns like Gueydan and Merryville with less than 2500 to draw from.
Just using Lab as an example. Same thing could be said about Lafayette Christian and others.
Just using Lab as an example. Same thing could be said about Lafayette Christian and others.
Posted on 12/3/18 at 9:17 pm to chalmetteowl
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We don't have the split bc John Curtis won state every year.
Had they just played 5a back in the day like evangel did maybe none of this happens
It will prob change this year but JC still hasn’t won a state championship in the new private class. Even with a small amount of teams competing. And they obviously never won a title in 5A.
Posted on 12/3/18 at 9:38 pm to RGJ18
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Yes, and? Private school recruit every student. Not one student is forced to go to their school.
So they should be split
Posted on 12/3/18 at 11:12 pm to reo45
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Easy to explain.. Exhibit A: Neville High School 2002-2004 arse whipped by Curtis. Neville has a lot of pull in the public screwing Private entity called the LHSAA. Bye bye Curtis. Exhibit B: West Monroe Rebels. Only reason they didnt stuff their trophy case more was because of Evangel. Evangel was not only better on the field, but also in recruiting and coaching. Unfair. West Monroe has the $$$$ make them work for you. Neville gas $$$ and alums. Funny considering that WM 2000 team was stocked FULL of "Transfers". It was the perfect example of pot calling kettle. What is telling is since this split WM has gotten worse. Meanwhile Neville benefitted tremendously. Everyone in Monroe/WM knows what caused the split. Your answer lues here in our neck of the woods.
Au contraire the author of the play in class was a nola school tired of ECA and scared of jc
Posted on 12/4/18 at 3:00 am to reo45
Neville has always recruited South Monroe for players. Oliver Lawerence told me this and he lived in Carroll's school district while playing for Neville in the 80s.
Posted on 12/4/18 at 7:40 am to RGJ18
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Yes, and? Private school recruit every student. Not one student is forced to go to their school.
Do you not see how there could be a discrepancy in talent if one school gets to recruit players to the school, while the other school has to just take whatever students are zoned for that school and choose not to go private?
The split makes sense to me, but I'm just looking at it rationally.
Posted on 12/4/18 at 7:49 am to JordonfortheJ
quote:still would have had the ones some wanted to avoid below the top
Can someone explain to me the LHSAA split?
Did LA ever try the multiplier for private schools?
Posted on 12/4/18 at 7:50 am to choupiquesushi
but in the last 18 years for every private school turned in for recruiting by another school there are 5 public schools turned in.
The two most heavily sanctioned private schools shaw ans su lab.. both turned themselves in.
The two most heavily sanctioned private schools shaw ans su lab.. both turned themselves in.
Posted on 12/4/18 at 7:53 am to Epic Cajun
I agree with the split, but open enrollment schools in large metro areas aren't helping the public/private demise. There is no way a schools in rural areas with population numbers in the 10's of thousand can compete with areas that are in the 100's of thousands, even though there are several schools in the larger and only one in the smaller.
Posted on 12/4/18 at 8:45 am to VernonPLSUfan
quote:CNI vs Country Day..... ND vs Newman say hello.....
There is no way a schools in rural areas with population numbers in the 10's of thousand can compete with areas that are in the 100's of thousands, even though there are several schools in the larger and only one in the smalle
Posted on 12/4/18 at 8:46 am to JordonfortheJ
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Did LA ever try the multiplier for private schools?
Wouldn’t have helped in any way. The two schools responsible have 400 kids K-12 and were winning the two highest classifications every year.
Posted on 12/4/18 at 8:52 am to Epic Cajun
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Do you not see how there could be a discrepancy in talent if one school gets to recruit players to the school, while the other school has to just take whatever students are zoned for that school and choose not to go private?
This would be a sound argument if this is how it actually went, but its not. Publics recruit as much if not more because they have to recruit against 2 if not 3 and 4 schools. If publics only ever got kids from their "zone" it would justify it a little bit more but not much. I have yet to hear an argument against the fact that publics actually are hurt they do not get to play privates in the playoffs.
Posted on 12/4/18 at 9:11 am to JordonfortheJ
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Did LA ever try the multiplier for private schools? Alabama use to have a 1.35 that could bump teams from a lower class to a higher class for the entire athletic program.
Now they use a point system that judges how a team has fared in relation to their success, but it only affects that 1 particular sport. Madison Academy for example moved from 3A to 4A with the regular multiplier, but now with the new rule they are 5A in football & basketball with similar enrollment numbers because of their great success in 4A with the regular multiplier. However, in other not so great sports they are still 4A like softball.
I have always thought something like that would make the most sense. Different schools may have a different advantage for whatever reason (public or private). Simply move them up.
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