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re: Cam Newton blames JaMarcus Russell and Vince Young for his Pre Draft perception

Posted on 12/28/11 at 11:17 am to
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 12/28/11 at 11:17 am to
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Reflects more poorly on AU system IMO. They simplfied/dumbed the game down for the players. We had more/harder hand signs in high school. They just had a number on a sheet, plus a dummy call.
Seemed to work fairly well for them.
Posted by StrongSafety
Member since Sep 2004
18000 posts
Posted on 12/28/11 at 11:20 am to
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Dude was drafted first. Why create a chip on your shoulder mentality? Do black athletes not realize the white athletes are just as scrutinize pre-draft also?


Why not? Some of the greatest athletes of our time (Bird, Jordan, Jerry West, Jerry Rice, etc) always felt like they had something to prove or someone to shut up for passing them up in the draft or saying that they would not succeed. ITs hard to stay motivated for THAT long when your as talented as some of these guys.

Whatever makes him play harder, I'm all for it.

Posted by beatbammer
Member since Sep 2010
38809 posts
Posted on 12/28/11 at 3:51 pm to
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I assumed Cam was referring to people like journalists or internet sports bloggers. I heard plenty of sports goobs talking about Cam before the draft and I never heard any mention of Russell.


https://content.usatoday.com/communities/thehuddle/post/2011/02/nflns-mike-mayock-cites-cautionary-jamarcus-russell-tale-after-cam-newtons-workout/1

Posted by CFBFAN1121
Abbottabad, Pakistan
Member since Sep 2006
4174 posts
Posted on 12/28/11 at 5:13 pm to
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Reflects more poorly on AU system IMO. They simplfied/dumbed the game down for the players. We had more/harder hand signs in high school. They just had a number on a sheet, plus a dummy call.


You have no clue what you're talking about. You have no idea how complicated the play calling was at AU considering you've spent no time in the offense. Just b/c all you saw was a number on TV, doesn't mean that was the only way they called the play.

If all AU did to call a play was to put a number on a piece of paper, why didn't other teams figure it out?
Posted by ready4something
virginia beach
Member since Jul 2008
6541 posts
Posted on 12/28/11 at 7:03 pm to
The real questions are, Who we will have the better career him or Tim Tebow? and did he feel he was better than Tebow while they played at Florida?
Posted by TTsTowel
RIP Bow9den/Coastie
Member since Feb 2010
92839 posts
Posted on 12/28/11 at 7:22 pm to
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The real questions are, Who we will have the better career him or Tim Tebow?


Newton or Tebow?

Pretty fricking easy answer, IYAM... Newton.
Posted by SouljaBreauxTellEm
Mizz
Member since Aug 2009
29343 posts
Posted on 12/28/11 at 7:24 pm to
why is he saying this tho?

he went #1 overall.

there are always haters, doubters, skeptics..
Posted by SouljaBreauxTellEm
Mizz
Member since Aug 2009
29343 posts
Posted on 12/28/11 at 7:24 pm to
and why is he getting ahead of himself. he still hasn't even played a full year in the league..
Posted by ready4something
virginia beach
Member since Jul 2008
6541 posts
Posted on 12/28/11 at 7:42 pm to
aint nothing like seeing black men tearing each other down in public. I like this.
Posted by DriveByBBQ
Willard's Garage
Member since Jan 2011
4608 posts
Posted on 12/28/11 at 8:50 pm to
I'm just glad he stopped chewing gum during the interview....Cam is a very talented player with seemingly unlimited potential.
Posted by tigerspin
Member since Dec 2008
1931 posts
Posted on 12/28/11 at 8:54 pm to
The guy is definitely a harder worker and more determined player than Russell or Young but nobody is more impressed with himself than Cam Newton is. All we can do is hope to "get on his level"
Posted by JoshuaChamberlain
Member since Sep 2010
5258 posts
Posted on 12/29/11 at 12:45 am to
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Charlotte Tiger


If there is 1 thing in Charlotte I love almost as much as Cam (no homo)..its Price's Chicken Coop..

You get your box w/ light or dark meat, tater rounds and your tea and gtfo
There are no other options, no being picky, get your box of goodness and gtfo

Dammit I miss that place
But my arteries don't
Posted by alajones
Huntsvegas
Member since Oct 2005
35925 posts
Posted on 12/29/11 at 10:38 am to
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beatbammer
I don't know what color Maycock is bt it is clear after reading that article the only reason he could possibly compare the two is because of their race. He gives no other reason for his caution. In fact the headline is really bad because IMO that isn't even the man point of the article. It is about how Cam is doing what he needs to do.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54853 posts
Posted on 12/29/11 at 10:47 am to
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why is he saying this tho?
From reading the article it appears he was asked about it in an interview and he refused to follow Warren Moon in saying his critics were racist.
Posted by Rittdog
Yesterday, all my troubles seemed
Member since Oct 2009
9955 posts
Posted on 12/29/11 at 11:53 am to
AT FIRST JAMARCUS AND VINCE WERE LIKE


BUT NOW JAMARCUS IS LIKE...*ON SOME GANGSTA SH*T..Watch out CAM
Posted by Shankopotomus
Social Distanced
Member since Feb 2009
21087 posts
Posted on 12/29/11 at 12:12 pm to
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I'm trying to be a trailblazer.


I guess he's unfamiliar with Randall Cunningham and Warren Moon...Doug Williams anyone?

My arse this isn't about race.
Posted by InThroughTheOutDore
Middle TN
Member since Nov 2008
7404 posts
Posted on 12/29/11 at 2:13 pm to
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I guess he's unfamiliar with Randall Cunningham and Warren Moon...Doug Williams anyone?



Steve McNair...
Posted by jso0003
Member since Jun 2009
5170 posts
Posted on 12/30/11 at 10:10 am to
Jamarcus looks scary as hell
Posted by theGarnetWay
Washington, D.C.
Member since Mar 2010
27403 posts
Posted on 12/30/11 at 10:27 am to
I certainly didn't like him when he was at AU, and I'm a Ravens fan but living in Cola / having family that lives in Charlotte I run into a fair amount of Panthers fans and they are psyched about the future with Cam, usually I watch a couple of Panthers games (especially since they're on local tv and because they have like 3 Gamecocks on their team) but this year I didn't catch any of what the Panthers are doing except for the highlights and what they tell me is that if the Panthers can get some solid defense they'll be a playoff-worthy team in no time.
Posted by allin2010
Auburn
Member since Aug 2011
18478 posts
Posted on 12/30/11 at 10:58 am to
Comparing Newton to Russell was foolish from start

LINK

From the start we should have seen he wouldn’t fail. Cam Newton had too much going for him: his throws were too good, his running elusive and the will to be great burned brighter than most. Ron Rivera, the Carolina Panthers’ new coach, understood. He slipped into Auburn’s football stadium on the afternoon before Newton’s pro day and watched the quarterback run through all of the next day’s drills, repeating them until perfect and then noticed the other players gathered around him in genuine affection. That’s when he knew........

And yet this week the talk is about race because of something Newton said in a magazine interview, swiping away the stigma dangled over his name simply over other men’s failures. Because no matter how good he was in college, no matter how much he impressed in interviews with teams and tried desperately to prove he was a leader, there was always a comparison to JaMarcus Russell. Like Newton, Russell was a one-year star in the SEC with great physical promise. Like Newton, Russell was destined to be the first overall pick. And like Newton, Russell was African-American. And so the link was made.


Really they were nothing alike. Russell clearly didn’t love football. He didn’t grasp what it took to be Peyton Manning or Tom Brady, and showed little interest in trying to be great. He didn’t want to be a leader and it showed in the way he ballooned over 300 pounds and slumped out of the league as a punch line to an expensive joke.



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