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re: Braves trade Yunel Escobar to Jays

Posted on 7/14/10 at 1:15 pm to
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
46354 posts
Posted on 7/14/10 at 1:15 pm to
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Believe it or not, Yunel's attitude didn't cause this team to not play hard did it?


I think maybe that was a big reason for the trade actually. This is a good team. You can tell they all get along and they all play hard and want to win. I wouldn't be very surprised if there was a general feeling in the clubhouse that Yunel needed to go. I don't think he is a Manny type cancer, but I doubt his lack of effort endeared him to many teammates over the years. Especially now that they are making a run at the playoffs.
Posted by glb
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2008
1610 posts
Posted on 7/14/10 at 1:16 pm to
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who the hell is arguing career numbers




do you prefer small sample sizes to base a players value off of?
Posted by Crede15
Member since Jun 2009
17250 posts
Posted on 7/14/10 at 1:18 pm to
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the one part of the trade I like the lefty is legit


from Craig Calcaterra: "Tim Collins: 194 minor league innings; 294Ks, 85BBs. That's interesting. Do people hate him because he's short?"

Keith Law apparently said the reason he's not rated higher is he's tiny


Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
41214 posts
Posted on 7/14/10 at 1:19 pm to
This is like the Failcouer trade. Addition by subtraction. And we clear Jo Jo Reyes from the 40 man.
Posted by SwampDonks
Member since Mar 2008
18342 posts
Posted on 7/14/10 at 1:19 pm to
Dude is 5'7 on a good day

I wanna see him throw
Posted by Pilot Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2005
74021 posts
Posted on 7/14/10 at 1:19 pm to
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Tim Collins: 194 minor league innings; 294Ks, 85BBs.
yea i'll take that please
Posted by Hullabaloo
LA
Member since Sep 2009
15296 posts
Posted on 7/14/10 at 1:20 pm to
Tiny Tim!



he should wear number 3/4
This post was edited on 7/14/10 at 1:21 pm
Posted by Hot Carl
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Member since Dec 2005
62715 posts
Posted on 7/14/10 at 1:23 pm to
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SwampDonks


Why don't you do us all a favor and just go ahead and kill yourself. Jesus Christ, what a whiny count.
Posted by SwampDonks
Member since Mar 2008
18342 posts
Posted on 7/14/10 at 1:25 pm to
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Why don't you do us all a favor and just go ahead and kill yourself. Jesus Christ, what a whiny count.


What the frick have I said that isn't true. I've calmed down. No reason to jump on me you peice of shite, unless that makes you feel better about yourself. Then go ahead
Posted by glb
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2008
1610 posts
Posted on 7/14/10 at 1:26 pm to
Tyler Pastornick: An athletic infielder, Pastornicky doesn't have flashy tools but gets the most out of what he has. He has good instincts at shortstop, along with plus range and an average arm. He's an above-average runner and basestealer, which opposing catchers quickly figured out as he swiped 57 bases between two Class A stops in 2009. Pastornicky has a line-drive stroke and projects as .275 hitter in the big leagues. The only thing he lacks is power, as he has hit just two homers in 636 pro at-bats. But as a potential top-of-the-order hitter who provides sound defense, he may not need it.


Sounds like a poor mans Elvis Andrus.


My problem is that I truly expect Yunel to have a much better second half and Alex to have a much worse second half. I think we made our team worse this year. I hope I'm wrong and Alex keeps up his power surge. If Yunel was actually that awful in the club house, then maybe he wouldn't have come around in Atlanta in the 2nd half.


Posted by Hullabaloo
LA
Member since Sep 2009
15296 posts
Posted on 7/14/10 at 1:28 pm to
Sounds like we found our future lead off
Posted by MShorn
Gulfport, MS
Member since Mar 2009
782 posts
Posted on 7/14/10 at 1:29 pm to
Maybe the change of scenery helps A Gon's AVG? He was hitting in the AL East playing Sabathia, Shields, Lester, etc. Hopefully he produces better off of NL pitching. Likewise, Yunel now has to face that pitching. He's gonna piss him off.
Posted by Pilot Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2005
74021 posts
Posted on 7/14/10 at 1:29 pm to
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I think we made our team worse this year.
how? the only way is if AG hits under .240 while simultaneously pissing off every player on the team.

If he hits .250 with 5 HR's the rest of the way and gels with the team, it's a huge plus IMO
Posted by Hullabaloo
LA
Member since Sep 2009
15296 posts
Posted on 7/14/10 at 1:31 pm to
How good is AG arm? I know not many have a cannon like Yunel but can he still gun it pretty good?
Posted by Hot Carl
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Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 7/14/10 at 1:36 pm to
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What the frick have I said that isn't true.



You don't think you could have said it without getting your pussy blood all over the place
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
41214 posts
Posted on 7/14/10 at 1:36 pm to
We have two solid veteran shortstops in Infante and Gonzalez for the stretch run. In the future we'll bring up Salcedo. But more importantly, Yunel and Jo Jo are gone, neither of whom have contributed to our season at all.
Posted by glb
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2008
1610 posts
Posted on 7/14/10 at 1:36 pm to
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how? the only way is if AG hits under .240 while simultaneously pissing off every player on the team.

If he hits .250 with 5 HR's the rest of the way and gels with the team, it's a huge plus IMO


That's exactly how. He could very easily hit .240 with 5 hr's the rest of the year with an OBP in the .280 range, while Yunel return to his career avg of hitting .290 with 5 hr's and an OBP of .360.
Posted by SwampDonks
Member since Mar 2008
18342 posts
Posted on 7/14/10 at 1:37 pm to
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You don't think you could have said it without getting your pussy blood all over the place


My bad. I went to the bathroom and whiped it all up a while ago though
Posted by Hot Carl
Prayers up for 3
Member since Dec 2005
62715 posts
Posted on 7/14/10 at 1:48 pm to
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My bad. I went to the bathroom and whiped it all up a while ago though



Fair enough.



Posted by glb
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2008
1610 posts
Posted on 7/14/10 at 1:50 pm to
quote:

Sounds like we found our future lead off


Would definitely be nice to have some speed on the team. If he can put together a good year in double A next year he might have a shot in 2012.
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