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re: Boise State's Bowl Record since 2004
Posted on 8/7/10 at 2:36 pm to Prominentwon
Posted on 8/7/10 at 2:36 pm to Prominentwon
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Regardless of you hatred for them, if they route VT and beat OSU, they're PROBABLY going to be in the NCG.
Even if they go undefeated and every other team has 2 losses they might not get higher than 5-6 in the computers. It's almost impossible for Boise to get in the national title game unless they can get some wedges in the computers between them and the #2 and #3 teams in the polls. They'd need Oregon State and Virginia Tech to both roll through their conferences and even then you'd have to hold off Ohio State, Alabama, Florida, Texas, Oklahoma, etc. Most years the NCG has teams from the SEC, Big10, and Big12, so even having wins over the ACC and Pac10 champs probably won't get them over the champions of the other 3 leagues. This doesn't even factor in if a West Virginia ran the table with a big OOC win over LSU (or the rest of the Big East).
really, Boise would need a 2007 type scenario with Virginia Tech being Ohio State and Oregon State being LSU, then every SEC, Big10, Big12, and Big East school has 3+ losses
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Posted on 8/7/10 at 2:36 pm to Tiger in NY
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Then how is a team made up of BCS would-be second stringers better than the team made up of BCS first stringers? Are you saying they are good because they have a bunch of players that could have gotten schollys at BCS schools, but wouldn't have been good enough to play? By the way, most of BSUs players were not even recruited at all by BCS programs. BSU's second string is made up of guys whose other offers were to Montana and Eastern Washington.
exactly , they don't have the size overall speed and depth to compete in the ACC or Big East week in week out, they would get crushed in the SEC
Posted on 8/7/10 at 2:37 pm to SlowFlowPro
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i don't know what you're getting at
It doesn't really matter. Boise will be Boise and YOU won't give them any credit. I will say this, that if they came to LSU THIS year they would beat them. They are better than alot of SEC teams, And I don't see where YOU can prove me wrong on this.
Posted on 8/7/10 at 2:38 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
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Against a lower overall Strength of Schedule.
overall is the whole year and yes USC was lower, but it could 3rd best in the country theoretically and still be lower. Their D was absolutely dominate that year and they were still playing in a BCS conference.
Posted on 8/7/10 at 2:39 pm to H-Town Tiger
didn't OU score 60 like 4-5 games in a row?
Posted on 8/7/10 at 2:41 pm to dukke v
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They are better than alot of SEC teams,
Vandy and UK do not constitute a lot of SEC teams.
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And I don't see where YOU can prove me wrong on this.
it can't be proven either way since it is a hypothetical.
Posted on 8/7/10 at 2:43 pm to The Easter Bunny
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Even if they go undefeated and every other team has 2 losses they might not get higher than 5-6 in the computers
bullshite!!!
Posted on 8/7/10 at 2:45 pm to H-Town Tiger
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Vandy and UK do not constitute a lot of SEC teams.
Posted on 8/7/10 at 2:47 pm to SlowFlowPro
5, plus 58 in the game before that run:
SC gave up single digits in 8 of 12 and 2 of the others they only gave up 10.
SC gave up single digits in 8 of 12 and 2 of the others they only gave up 10.
Posted on 8/7/10 at 2:47 pm to dukke v
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bullshite!!!
It's really not. The computers won't allow them to be in the Title game, and thats a fact
Posted on 8/7/10 at 2:48 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:So do idiots voting in a poll to determine the national champion. I'd rather a fluke, on the field, decide a championship over silly opinion.
flukes happen.
Posted on 8/7/10 at 2:50 pm to Gmorgan4982
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So do idiots voting in a poll to determine the national champion
you do know that even if BSU is #1 in both human polls, they likely won't make the title game, right?
that's based on purely objective data (computer polls)
Posted on 8/7/10 at 2:50 pm to H-Town Tiger
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it can't be proven either way since it is a hypothetical
Can't tell that to SFP!! HE KNOWS ALL!!!!
Posted on 8/7/10 at 2:51 pm to Tigerbait337
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It's really not. The computers won't allow them to be in the Title game BECAUSE THEIR SCHEDULE IS A JOKE EVERY YEAR, and thats a fact
Posted on 8/7/10 at 2:51 pm to Tiger in NY
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So do idiots voting in a poll to determine the national champion.
K, so what kind of Playoff are you in favor of?
8 Team playoff? 6 BCS auto bids from conference Champions and 2 others get in from either BCS or non BCS conferences?
This post was edited on 8/7/10 at 2:53 pm
Posted on 8/7/10 at 2:53 pm to Tigerbait337
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It's really not. The computers won't allow them to be in the Title game, and thats a fact
If all other top teams have 2 loses and they are unbeaten ??? BSU GETS IN!!!! So I guess TCU sucks as well???
They have some STUPID PEOPLE ON HERE!!!!Posted on 8/7/10 at 2:53 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Yeah, I know. They can go 12-0 (again) and not get into the national title game (again). It's a crap system. In my system, they go 12-0, get their shot, get beat in the 1st round, and you're happy.
you do know that even if BSU is #1 in both human polls, they likely won't make the title game, right?
Posted on 8/7/10 at 2:55 pm to Gmorgan4982
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It's a crap system
the "system" that keeps them out is objective. what do you have against objective measures of teams?
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In my system, they go 12-0, get their shot,
it's not that simple
what if 1 team beyond 4 (or whatever your number is) goes undefeated, like 2004?
and if not, you have to assume that their schedule is strong enough to justify giving them this huge advantage in your system
Posted on 8/7/10 at 2:56 pm to Gmorgan4982
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So do idiots voting in a poll to determine the national champion. I'd rather a fluke, on the field, decide a championship over silly opinion
the opinion is based on what happens on the field, there are too many voters for there to be a fluke winner like Villanova or the 2007 NYFG
Posted on 8/7/10 at 2:57 pm to Tigerbait337
I'm for all 11 conferences to be given the same weight in the determination of a champion.. Actually, in a perfect world, I'd rather there be 4-7 conferences put in an entirely different subdivision than the "lower" conferences but that hasn't happened yet. The fact that a team can go undefeated and have less chance in the same subdivision than a team that has lost games is ridiculous.
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