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re: Boise State's Bowl Record since 2004

Posted on 8/7/10 at 12:58 pm to
Posted by Buckeye Fan 19
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Posted on 8/7/10 at 12:58 pm to
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RRR by a touchdown to Texas.


Just FWIW, in 2006, OU got blown out by UT, they didn't lose by a TD.
This post was edited on 8/7/10 at 1:08 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/7/10 at 1:04 pm to
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If BSU is so horrible, can't we just have a playoff and have BSU get beaten in the first round and you wouldn't have to worry about it? Why should people's opinions on how good BSU is be so important to the process?

flukes happen. i tend to favor systems that eliminate the chance of flukes

and BSU STILL wouldn't have had to face the same road to a playoff and would have an unfair advantage
This post was edited on 8/7/10 at 1:05 pm
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 8/7/10 at 1:31 pm to
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SlowFlowPro



I like that you WON"T answer my question. Its shows something. ARGUE all you want Jake. BSU is the real deal. THIS year they would only lose to FLA and BAMA!!! BUT SINCE YOU think you know everything I guess there is NO sense posting.
Posted by Ghazi
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Posted on 8/7/10 at 1:31 pm to
BCS just promotes regular season flukes.

We were damn close to a PSU/Oklahoma NCG a few years ago... which would've left out Florida and USC, the 2 best teams in the nation. As it is, USC was still left out due to a fluke loss to Oregon State.

Boise State's bowl record is just an arbitrary stat... 4 losses by 6 points or less... fluky.
This post was edited on 8/7/10 at 1:32 pm
Posted by Tiger in NY
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Posted on 8/7/10 at 1:57 pm to
If they had to play even 5 BCS teams in a year, they would be an 8-4 team every year. And I am not saying 5 really good BCS teams, just 5 average or above average teams. Shoot, they are going to fall just from having to play in the rough and tough MWest.
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 8/7/10 at 2:01 pm to
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If they had to play even 5 BCS teams in a year, they would be an 8-4 team every year


If they played in the SEC and went 8-4. SFP would be wrong. I think they would do great in the SEC THIS year. SEC will be down this year again. SERIOUS!!!
Posted by Tiger in NY
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Posted on 8/7/10 at 2:01 pm to
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I actually believe that all teams should have equal access to a title and major bowl games. I know, crazy idea, right? Treat all the schools in the same classification the same...



How do they not have equal access? Are they not part of the Harris poll? Does Sagarin not include them in his rankings? Until they go play a real schedule, it is their own fault that they aren't in the title picture.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
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Posted on 8/7/10 at 2:04 pm to
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I think they would do great in the SEC THIS year. SEC will be down this year again. SERIOUS!!!


they would be wore down and beat up half way through the SEC schedule. They don't have the overall size and lack the depth to compete week in and week out in the SEC. Same for the rest of the BCS conferences
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/7/10 at 2:06 pm to
yeah BSU is small as frick

they're built on WAC speed

they wear down in the wac. i can only imagine what they'd do in the SEC
Posted by Tiger in NY
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Posted on 8/7/10 at 2:14 pm to
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they wear down in the wac. i can only imagine what they'd do in the SEC


Their schedule will get a lot tougher next year too. Not that the MWest is really tough, but it is a far better league than one that claims San Jose St. and New Mexico.

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If they played in the SEC and went 8-4. SFP would be wrong. I think they would do great in the SEC THIS year. SEC will be down this year again. SERIOUS!!!


If they played in the SEC this year, they would likely be around 7-5, and that is only if they played all 4 OOC games against WAC teams.
This post was edited on 8/7/10 at 2:17 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/7/10 at 2:15 pm to
oh i agree

but sadly, Utah is out
Posted by HeadSlash
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Posted on 8/7/10 at 2:22 pm to
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But the Statue of Liberty play was cool therefore Boise is the BEST THING EVER!!!



Don't forget the marriage proposal.
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 8/7/10 at 2:22 pm to
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they would be wore down and beat up half way through the SEC schedule


Disagree!!! You people don't want to realize that player will go where they can play NOW. Thats why all this is an issue in the first place. There are a TON of players that could go to a top teir SEC school, but they DON'T want to sit when they could go somewher else and play right away.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
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Posted on 8/7/10 at 2:25 pm to
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Disagree!!! You people don't want to realize that player will go where they can play NOW. Thats why all this is an issue in the first place. There are a TON of players that could go to a top teir SEC school, but they DON'T want to sit when they could go somewher else and play right away.


for the most part they recruit pac 10 left overs.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 8/7/10 at 2:27 pm to
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ou people don't want to realize that player will go where they can play NOW. Thats why all this is an issue in the first place. There are a TON of players that could go to a top teir SEC school, but they DON'T want to sit when they could go somewher else and play right away.

BSU doesn't get top recruits, and very few players play right away in boise

i don't know what you're getting at
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 8/7/10 at 2:27 pm to
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As it is, USC was still left out due to a fluke loss to Oregon State.


what cost them was SOS, their loss to OSU was a "better" loss than Florida to OM.
Posted by Tiger in NY
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Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 8/7/10 at 2:28 pm to
Then how is a team made up of BCS would-be second stringers better than the team made up of BCS first stringers? Are you saying they are good because they have a bunch of players that could have gotten schollys at BCS schools, but wouldn't have been good enough to play? By the way, most of BSUs players were not even recruited at all by BCS programs. BSU's second string is made up of guys whose other offers were to Montana and Eastern Washington.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/7/10 at 2:29 pm to
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what cost them was SOS, their loss to OSU was a "better" loss than Florida to OM.

also OU and UF had been wrecking fricking shop and playing at a higher level in tougher conferences
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 8/7/10 at 2:32 pm to
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also OU and UF had been wrecking fricking shop and playing at a higher level in tougher conferences


they were player better competition, but USC's D was absolutely wrecking shop the end of that year.
Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
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Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 8/7/10 at 2:35 pm to
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they were player better competition, but USC's D was absolutely wrecking shop the end of that year.


Against a lower overall Strength of Schedule. This was nothing new for USC. Remember it was a lower SoS than LSU that doomed USC's chances to face Oklahoma in the 2003 BCS title game.

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