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re: Boise State's Bowl Record since 2004
Posted on 8/7/10 at 2:58 pm to Tigerbait337
Posted on 8/7/10 at 2:58 pm to Tigerbait337
quote:
K, so what kind of Playoff are you in favor of?
The exact same system the FCS schools have. I've never understood the resistance to it. Are people really saying the major schools can't make it work, when smaller, less-affluent schools can.
It's a great playoff system. And you've had schools from every part of the country win championships.
And it's almost exactly like what players will be facing in the NFL.
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Posted on 8/7/10 at 2:58 pm to Gmorgan4982
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I'm for all 11 conferences to be given the same weight in the determination of a champion.. Actually, in a perfect world, I'd rather there be 4-7 conferences put in an entirely different subdivision than the "lower" conferences but that hasn't happened yet. The fact that a team can go undefeated and have less chance in the same subdivision than a team that has lost games is ridiculous.
I'm talking realistically, what would you like to see
Posted on 8/7/10 at 2:58 pm to H-Town Tiger
quote:That's your opinion. Last year's national champion was a fluke ............ in my opinion. Five teams went undefeated in the regular season. Why did only two get a chance?
there are too many voters for there to be a fluke winner like Villanova or the 2007 NYFG
Posted on 8/7/10 at 2:59 pm to Gmorgan4982
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The fact that a team can go undefeated and have less chance in the same subdivision than a team that has lost games is ridiculous.
well the 2004 situation can arise
AU
USC
OU
Utah
BSU
all undefeated. who gets left out?
also, how can you justify BSU over UT or Cal?
UT had 1 loss (to OU)
Cal had 1 loss (to USC)
UL had 1 loss (to Miami, on the road when their starting QB got hurt)
Posted on 8/7/10 at 2:59 pm to Gmorgan4982
So you are ok with rewarding teams for not scheduling tough at all? I don't have any interest in a system that qualifies 12 wins versus the likes of New Mexico and San Diego St the same as wins over LSU and Florida?
Posted on 8/7/10 at 2:59 pm to SlowFlowPro
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In my system, they go 12-0, get their shot,
it's not that simple
YES it is.
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what if 1 team beyond 4 (or whatever your number is) goes undefeated, like 2004?
What does 2004 have to do with anything???
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and if not, you have to assume that their schedule is strong enough to justify giving them this huge advantage in your system
If BSU is 12-0 and they have all the other teams with 2 loses BSU IS IN. DEAL WITH IT SFP. frick. Go read a law book.
Posted on 8/7/10 at 3:00 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
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The exact same system the FCS schools have. I've never understood the resistance to it. Are people really saying the major schools can't make it work, when smaller, less-affluent schools can.
i'm saying it's a bad system
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It's a great playoff system
not really
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And you've had schools from every part of the country win championships.
who cares?
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And it's almost exactly like what players will be facing in the NFL.
the BCS is better than the NFL system
Posted on 8/7/10 at 3:00 pm to Tigerbait337
That's what I would like to see. Anything else is all opinion writer BS. I mean, heck, why don't we all just have individual national champions. Last year, I think Texas was better than Bama but Bama won because of a fluke so my national champion would be Texas. But tomorrow, I may think that Boise was better than either one of them. So tomorrow, my 2009 national champion may be Boise. Who knows?
Posted on 8/7/10 at 3:01 pm to Gmorgan4982
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Why did only two get a chance?
they proved over the course of a season that they were the best team
Posted on 8/7/10 at 3:02 pm to Tiger in NY
quote:They go into the playoff; they lose in the first round and they're done. Where is the reward?
So you are ok with rewarding teams for not scheduling tough at all?
Posted on 8/7/10 at 3:02 pm to SlowFlowPro
Proved to who? Based on what specific criteria?
Posted on 8/7/10 at 3:02 pm to Gmorgan4982
quote:
Where is the reward?
the entitlement of the slot in the playoffs
this could be given to a much more deserving team who showed more over the course of the year
Posted on 8/7/10 at 3:02 pm to Tiger in NY
2009 Scenario
8 Team playoff
6 BCS Conference Champions get invited to the playoff
2 other teams get invited, from Non BCS conferences or another BCS conference
1 Alabama
2 Texas
3 Ohio State
4 Oregon
5 Cincinnati
6 Georgia Tech
Then you run into the problem of a 1 loss Florida who lost in the SEC Championship game. Do they go in before an undefeated Boise State team and an undefeated TCU team? Yes, yes they do. If you say they don't deserve it, they showed Cincinnati that they also didn't belong, which proves a playoff wouldn't work. You also have an Iowa team that fits into the discussion.
I can do the same thing for the 08 season aswell.
8 Team playoff
6 BCS Conference Champions get invited to the playoff
2 other teams get invited, from Non BCS conferences or another BCS conference
1 Alabama
2 Texas
3 Ohio State
4 Oregon
5 Cincinnati
6 Georgia Tech
Then you run into the problem of a 1 loss Florida who lost in the SEC Championship game. Do they go in before an undefeated Boise State team and an undefeated TCU team? Yes, yes they do. If you say they don't deserve it, they showed Cincinnati that they also didn't belong, which proves a playoff wouldn't work. You also have an Iowa team that fits into the discussion.
I can do the same thing for the 08 season aswell.
This post was edited on 8/7/10 at 3:04 pm
Posted on 8/7/10 at 3:03 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Who gets left out of what?
who gets left out?
Posted on 8/7/10 at 3:04 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:OK, you win your conference and you're in.
the entitlement of the slot in the playoffs
quote:According to what specific criteria?
much more deserving team
Posted on 8/7/10 at 3:04 pm to Gmorgan4982
quote:
Who gets left out of what?
that scenario. there was an odd number of undefeated teams (and 2 teams with 1 loss with stronger resumes than 1 of those undefeated team, and a 1-loss team who was better than one of those undefeated teams at least)
Posted on 8/7/10 at 3:04 pm to Gmorgan4982
The reward is that they are even there in the first place. If you remove SOS from the equation, teams will not play any tough OOC and the regular season becomes a joke. How many teams would you let into your playoffs?
Posted on 8/7/10 at 3:05 pm to SlowFlowPro
I don't know what you're talking about. My ideal system for the way the FBS conferences are set up now has more than 5 teams so no one would be left out.
Posted on 8/7/10 at 3:05 pm to Gmorgan4982
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OK, you win your conference and you're in.
are all conferences even now?
unless they are, conferences should not be linked to an ideal system
quote:
According to what specific criteria?
performing better over the course of the season
performing better against better competition
Posted on 8/7/10 at 3:05 pm to SlowFlowPro
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And you've had schools from every part of the country win championships.
who cares?
What does THIS MATTER????
quote:
the BCS is better than the NFL system
YOU ARE A
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