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re: Boise State's Bowl Record since 2004
Posted on 8/7/10 at 9:43 am to Vood
Posted on 8/7/10 at 9:43 am to Vood
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complaining, trick plays and a horrible looking field
The complaining I'll give and BSU certainly shouldn't be doing that, but as for the other two things...FSU ran trick plays all the time, plus it's not like anyone was complaining when Colt David was running for a TD or LSU faked a punt from it's own endzone. It's like anything else...stop it and maybe they'll quit running it.
The blue field? Eh, not my cup of tea, but if Bama suddenly changed to a red field, it wouldn't make them any less viable.
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Posted on 8/7/10 at 10:08 am to Sophandros
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love small samples
6 years isn't a small sample
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coupled with selection bias.
i looked at bowl games...the place BSU has "made their mark"
perhaps the selection bias is with america, who loves them based on 1 bowl game
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Treat all the schools in the same classification the same...
they're in different sub classifications...BCS and non-BCS
one contributes and builds the system. one is a leach on the system
Posted on 8/7/10 at 10:08 am to Sophandros
quote:checkmate
I love small samples coupled with selection bias.
Posted on 8/7/10 at 10:11 am to Rouge
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checkmate
Not really...
For one, it isn't a small sample.
For two, sample size Is less the issue and trending is more the issue. When showing their trends, the only thing you can show is recent bowl games
Posted on 8/7/10 at 10:11 am to Rouge
i provided every bowl game since they became relevant
their record against the BCS from 2004 onward, regardless of when they played, is like 5-4 also
their record against the BCS from 2004 onward, regardless of when they played, is like 5-4 also
Posted on 8/7/10 at 10:13 am to SlowFlowPro
looking at one game in a season of 12-14 games is a small sample size
Posted on 8/7/10 at 10:13 am to KBeezy
going back 2 years
their bowl record is 4-4
their record against the BCS is 6-6
their bowl record is 4-4
their record against the BCS is 6-6
Posted on 8/7/10 at 10:14 am to Rouge
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looking at one game in a season of 12-14 games is a small sample size
how about looking at 1 game (2006 Fiesta) over the span of 2004-2009? what kind of fricking sample is that?
Posted on 8/7/10 at 10:15 am to Rouge
Well when you are pistol whipping high school teams all season, the bowl game is the only game you can look at for Amy relevance.
So of it is a small sample size, then it's BSU fault for that joke of a schedule
So of it is a small sample size, then it's BSU fault for that joke of a schedule
Posted on 8/7/10 at 10:17 am to KBeezy
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So of it is a small sample size, then it's BSU fault for that joke of a schedule
this was going to be my next point
i just wrote a long arse 1st part of an article about BSU from their emergence (2004) until this year
the first half was mostly facts. the 2nd half will be mostly analysis of everything
this one factor still "rules them all." i only touched on it vol. 1
Posted on 8/7/10 at 10:22 am to mmjones87
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Sit down Boise
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September 3, 2005
Because it's the same exact team.
Posted on 8/7/10 at 10:26 am to Prominentwon
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Because it's the same exact team.
BSU has never played a BCS team during the regular season outside of the pac NW since that game
i don't think they've played a BCS team east of the rockies since that game (i think the fiesta is west of the rockies)
BSU has not played an SEC team since that game
Posted on 8/7/10 at 10:43 am to SlowFlowPro
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outside of the pac NW since that game
...and they beat the PAC-10 Champs. Regardless of you hatred for them, if they route VT and beat OSU, they're PROBABLY going to be in the NCG.
I don't care about what they've done the last 6 years because all of those guys are gone. They return 21 of 22 starters from a team that beat Oregon. Kellen Moore may be a product of a system but it's a good system. Truth is, every great QB is the product of the system
Kid is a fantastic college QB. His numbers prove that, regardless of the competition. He was 19/29 vs BCS competition.
I'm taking Boise for another undefeated season this year.
Posted on 8/7/10 at 10:45 am to Prominentwon
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if they route VT and beat OSU, they're PROBABLY going to be in the NCG.
i think their SOS will hold them back and they won't be able to go. we ran out the hypothetical numbers a couple weeks ago
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They return 21 of 22 starters from a team that beat Oregon.
UO shite the bed that game. anybody who watched it understands that
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Kid is a fantastic college QB.
i'd like to see him go up against the SEC for an entire 12 games. 1 game did wonders for zabransky
Posted on 8/7/10 at 10:54 am to SlowFlowPro
Moore is ALOT better than Zabransky. They did alot of misdirection run/zone option stuff when he was there. Moore is more of a passing QB. A nightmare for running teams. Which VT is this year. Taylor is just a runner......
They "shite the bed" because they lost to Boise. Nothing more, nothing less.
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UO shite the bed that game. anybody who watched it understands that
They "shite the bed" because they lost to Boise. Nothing more, nothing less.
Posted on 8/7/10 at 10:55 am to Prominentwon
no they shite the bed b/c they ran about 5 plays and their OL was not cohesive at all
plus masoli did the infamous hop pass when UO was coming back. that shite was just pathetic
plus masoli did the infamous hop pass when UO was coming back. that shite was just pathetic
Posted on 8/7/10 at 11:01 am to SlowFlowPro
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one contributes and builds the system. one is a leach on the system
BCS/non BCS is about money only...zero to do with the level of a program. I'm not trumpeting Boise's case here, but just in general, if a non-BCS school were to play several highly ranked BCS schools, beat them and go to the title game, you'd still prefer it if a BCS team from a shite conference that plays a shite OOC schedule would go over them?
Posted on 8/7/10 at 11:02 am to Obi-Wan Tiger
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BCS/non BCS is about money only...zero to do with the level of a program
the 2 go hand in hand
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if a non-BCS school were to play several highly ranked BCS schools, beat them and go to the title game, you'd still prefer it if a BCS team from a shite conference that plays a shite OOC schedule would go over them?
not at all
but this never happens
the closest was FSU a year or 2 ago, and they didn't come close
BSU REFUSES to play multiple BCS teams, and they rarely play BCS teams outside of the beginning of the year
Posted on 8/7/10 at 11:05 am to SlowFlowPro
Boise is no different that any of the directional schools in most states. They just get more attention since they had a big win against OU when OU did not want to be in that game. OU wanted to be in the National Championship game and they didn't really care until it was too late. Boise on the other than treated this as their game of the century.
Posted on 8/7/10 at 11:07 am to Vood
BSU is a really good "directional" school
you're wrong
that OU team was simply not that good and their national title hopes were sealed by the RRS
that OU team slid into the Big12 championship when Colt McCoy got hurt against KSU and UT lost 2 in a row
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OU wanted to be in the National Championship game and they didn't really care until it was too late
you're wrong
that OU team was simply not that good and their national title hopes were sealed by the RRS
that OU team slid into the Big12 championship when Colt McCoy got hurt against KSU and UT lost 2 in a row
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