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re: Big 12(texas10) really was hurt by the moves, in behind the scenes posturing
Posted on 3/18/12 at 3:14 pm to StraightCashHomey21
Posted on 3/18/12 at 3:14 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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StraightCashHomey21
You brought nothing to counter what I said, at all. Just more sabre rattling based on complete BS.
You are a product of a horribly shitty conference that should not have a BCS bid. Find someone outside of delusional WV that doesn't agree with that statement.
Your fan base has an inferiority complex that has no rivals in all of college sports. It really is something.
Again, have fun keeping that pipeline flowing having to play teams that far away. You better hope your HC can use his Texas roots to pull some talent.
I have always thought highly of WVU until this year when their fan base threw Mizzou under the bus during expansion because they are desperate and delusional.
THe reality is this:
WVU is taking our sloppy seconds.
Enjoy the Lil Bevo conference...at least for the few years of life it has left. It would be pretty ironic if you ended up back in a conference with your old Big Least pals in a couple of years.
This post was edited on 3/18/12 at 3:16 pm
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Posted on 3/18/12 at 3:16 pm to Ostrich
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OU doesn't settle for BCS wins
Yeah, they settle for BCS losses.
And it's like no one remembers how friggin' terrible TCU football has been historically. It's like Texas Tech being briefly competent under Leach -- he left and they retunred to the 500 level which is their historic norm. As soon as Patterson retires or leaves, they turn back into a pumpkin.
Posted on 3/18/12 at 3:18 pm to kilo
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You brought nothing to counter what I said, at all. Just more sabre rattling based on complete BS.
then you clearly didn't read my post
b/c we both know its true and you can't argue it, esp that the deciding/primary factor in adding Mizzou was tv sets to think otherwise is burring your head in the sand
Posted on 3/18/12 at 3:18 pm to HT713
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And idk what's up with OU. They seem content to just sit back and watch UT get put on a pedestal as the premier program in that conference and not really do or say anything about it.
Please. 
Posted on 3/18/12 at 3:19 pm to Ostrich
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I don't ever see it happening at A&M.
take out A&M, go back to 1999 and I can't tell you how many people said this about LSU.
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Unlike LSU, A&M will never be the number one school in the state and have that kind of support.
Texas is big enough that it doesn't matter. There are just as many Aggies in the state as there are Longhorns. No one school will ever be the majority #1, only by polarity. By playing LSU every year now, A&M can make in roads into W La. I don't think they will ever be a major threat to LSU, but they can get quality players from La, do better in SE Texas and be a legit contender. I see their potential ceiling a UGA type program or maybe a little better version or Arkansas.
Posted on 3/18/12 at 3:19 pm to StraightCashHomey21
Yeah, I'm not gonna rag on WVU football, which is a historic second tier power. They were good pre-Big East, and about the only northeast program capable of at least competing with Penn St. WVU is a good get for any conference. I think Mizzou has better hoops tradition, but I would've been happy with either program in the SEC.
Posted on 3/18/12 at 3:20 pm to kilo
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Again, have fun keeping that pipeline flowing having to play teams that far away. You better hope your HC can use his Texas roots to pull some talent.
again you have no idea wtf you are talking about most of our class this year is from FL even after the switch that mixed with Dana's ties in TX we will be just fine
Posted on 3/18/12 at 3:21 pm to Baloo
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I think Mizzou has better hoops tradition,
well they are a bball school with no final 4's while we have 2
we also got the logo
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They were good pre-Big East, and about the only northeast program capable of at least competing with Penn St. WVU is a good get for any conference.
Mizzou would be awful if it had a state of 2 million people. WVU has historically done more with less just like Nebraska
This post was edited on 3/18/12 at 3:22 pm
Posted on 3/18/12 at 3:21 pm to Ostrich
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It's not like these schools are just appearing out of no where. There will always be recruiting battles with other schools and OU will be able to hold their own. In the 2012 Class, OU had FIVE recruits out of Texas. I'm not worried.
How are you not understanding that more recruiting battles vs elite programs means less recruiting battle victories.
You will recruit well but not as well as you did.
You will find yourself battling Arkansas a lot in the future for D/FW top recruits along with Texas & A&M.
I don't see OU having much presence in Houston at all and having to rely more on national recruiting.
It'll be interesting to see what happens to OU after Stoops is gone
Posted on 3/18/12 at 3:24 pm to H-Town Tiger
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I see their potential ceiling a UGA type program or maybe a little better version or Arkansas.
Good for them if it happens. All I'm saying is A&M will never have a better program than OU. Oklahoma has always been and always will be around the top. I don't see LSU dropping off any time soon, either.
Posted on 3/18/12 at 3:25 pm to StraightCashHomey21
Gotta give props to the logo 
Posted on 3/18/12 at 3:25 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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Mizzou would be awful if it had a state of 2 million people.
And if New York City only had one million people, it would be Nashville. So what? It DOES have more than 2 million, and the recruiting areas of KC and St. Louis.
WVU hoops did have Jerry West. He was pretty darn good. San Francisco won a national title when the Big O went there, and no one is claiming they are a basketball power. Mizzou's been consistently good. Not Kansas or UNC level, but certainly a good program.
Posted on 3/18/12 at 3:27 pm to Ostrich
How many years does one team have to be better to be a "better program" than another in it's current form?
Posted on 3/18/12 at 3:28 pm to Alahunter
Posted on 3/18/12 at 3:29 pm to Ostrich
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Oklahoma has always been and always will be around the top.
Then what were the 90s? OU was bad before Stoops showed up. He saved the program, really, and restored it as a power. Considering OU relies on Dallas recruiting, its no guarrantee they will continue forever, especially if A&M can ever figure out how to recruit Dallas. A powerful A&M is a disaster for OU, and to be honest, a threat to LSU (Houston and east Texas recuiting).
Posted on 3/18/12 at 3:30 pm to Baloo
Big O went to Cincy. San Fran had La native Bill Russell
Point still valid
Point still valid
Posted on 3/18/12 at 3:31 pm to Big Kat
I knew I was screwing up who went there. I flipped Robertson and Russell.
Posted on 3/18/12 at 3:31 pm to Big Kat
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You will find yourself battling Arkansas a lot in the future for D/FW top recruits along with Texas & A&M.
We pretty much always have. Again, it's not like recruits haven't heard about Arkansas or A&M before. OU will get theirs and I'm not worried about it.
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I don't see OU having much presence in Houston at all and having to rely more on national recruiting.
We've never had a strong presence in Houston. But the national recruiting part is true as seen in this map. We'll be okay
Posted on 3/18/12 at 3:32 pm to Baloo
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Yeah, I'm not gonna rag on WVU football, which is a historic second tier power
I see why the SEC would take Mizzou, but I was surprised that the ACC passed on them.
Posted on 3/18/12 at 3:32 pm to Ostrich
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Good for them if it happens. All I'm saying is A&M will never have a better program than OU.
That brings me back to my original question. Define "better". What do you mean by a "better" program? No, they won't have a better history, but what does "better" mean in this context? I think most would Alabama has a "better" program than Auburn. Hasn't stopped Auburn from having a good team capable of competing for the SEC title and a NC.
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