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re: Best Pitching rotations ever

Posted on 9/30/21 at 10:38 pm to
Posted by VADawg
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Posted on 9/30/21 at 10:38 pm to
1998 Braves:

Maddux
Glavine
Smoltz
Neagle
Millwood
Posted by LSUBALLER
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Posted on 9/30/21 at 10:39 pm to
Wonder how female groupies felt.
Posted by OhioLSUfan
Columbus, OH
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 9/30/21 at 11:40 pm to
1884 providence Gray's in the national league had a two man staff and one of them quit halfway through the year.

Old Hoss Radbourn went 60-12 with 73 complete games and 1.38 era. He also started all 3 games of the first world series (NL VS AA) and only allowed 3 runs in a sweep.

Sweeney went 17-8 with 22 complete games and a 1.55 era.
Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
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Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 10/1/21 at 12:18 am to
Not the best ever but the early 2000s A's had Tim Hudson, Mark Mulder, and Barry Zito all dealing for a few seasons.


Hudson was just a cool baw, Mulder is tearing up the celebrity golf circuits, and Zito is undoubtedly somewhere on the west coast doing weird shite.
This post was edited on 10/1/21 at 12:19 am
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 10/1/21 at 12:21 am to
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Old Hoss Radbourn went 60-12 with 73 complete games and 1.38 era. He also started all 3 games of the first world series (NL VS AA) and only allowed 3 runs in a sweep.

Sweeney went 17-8 with 22 complete games and a 1.55 era.

i bet that ERA+ was like 120
Posted by Lester Earl
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Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 10/1/21 at 12:30 am to
quote:

1998 Braves:

Maddux
Glavine
Smoltz
Neagle
Millwood


19.2 WAR






2001 Randy Johnson / curt schilling WAR : 18.9
Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2019
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Posted on 10/1/21 at 12:43 am to
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El Duque, Buehrle, Contreas, Garcia and Garland


give me a break
Posted by Quesadilla Superman
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Posted on 10/1/21 at 12:54 am to
quote:

Phillies with Halladay, Hamels, Lee, Oswalt


Damn! This is a good one that completely slipped my mind
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
20164 posts
Posted on 10/1/21 at 2:37 am to
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Dodgers with Sandy Koufax, Don Drysdale, Don Sutton, and Claude Osteen.


Gets my vote. Also had Bill Singer on staff.
Posted by LC4Tigers
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 10/1/21 at 4:44 am to
quote:

1998 Braves


This is the right answer, in my opinion. All of them won at least 15-16 games and combined ERA (2.98?) was around 1.3 below league average.

Considering the home runs and ridiculous offensive numbers of the time, it’s really impressive.
Posted by VBFlorida
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Posted on 10/1/21 at 5:19 am to
Posted by StringMusic
Metaire, LA
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 10/1/21 at 5:47 am to
Came here to post 71 Orioles. Dodgers & Braves had good rotations as well but 71 Orioles may have been better.

I recall 68 Tigers being good but that was almost all McLain (31 wins!) & Lolich. I can’t recall the other starters.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
44168 posts
Posted on 10/1/21 at 6:58 am to
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Nevertheless, I've always thought Feller was underappreciated compared to some of the other peers..


Feller won 24,27,25 games in 3 consecutive seasons. Finished in the top 3 in MVP voting all 3 seasons.

Then spent 4 years in the War, came back leads the league in wins and strikeouts, while throwing 36 complete games & 10 shutouts.
Posted by Zap Rowsdower
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Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 10/1/21 at 8:02 am to
Circa 04 Astros is my personal fav:
Oswalt
Clemens
Pettitte
Posted by RickDorf
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Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 10/1/21 at 8:44 am to
Having 4 studs in the rotation is expensive. Braves of the 90's will be the last such staff.

All it takes really is:

2 aces in the rotation (think Schilling and Johnson)
+2 good serviceable pitchers in the rotation
Excellent closer and excellent setup or dominant lefty out of the bullpen

Solid hitting lineup (no heroes necessary -- maybe one big bopper but I'd rather he be 30+ HRs with .300 avg vs a 45 HR with .250 avg)

Excellent fielding SS + 2B and a solid CF. Very good set of catchers (bats not needed so much).

You have those things, you'll win 100 games every time.
Posted by LSUBoo
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Member since Mar 2006
103533 posts
Posted on 10/1/21 at 8:46 am to
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i bet that ERA+ was like 120


205 for Old Hoss, which led the league.
Posted by CHEDBALLZ
South Central LA
Member since Dec 2009
23093 posts
Posted on 10/1/21 at 8:52 am to
quote:

Maddux, Glavine, and Smoltz


With a sprinkle of Steve Avery
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 10/1/21 at 9:03 am to
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Having 4 studs in the rotation is expensive. Braves of the 90's will be the last such staff.


I mean the Dodgers have a better staff right now and Trevor Bauer isn’t even included in that


Plus the Braves never really ever had a 4th stud. Usually never a 3rd stud either in the same year. The 1996 staff probably performed the best.


Posted by Speedy G
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 10/1/21 at 9:50 am to
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Plus the Braves never really ever had a 4th stud.

1997

Maddux - 19-4, 2.20, 0.946 WHIP
Glavine - 14-7, 2.96, 1.150
Neagle - 20-5, 2.97, 1.084
Smoltz - 15-12, 3.02, 1.160

All four were top 10 in both ERA and WHIP.
Posted by Jamohn
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Member since Mar 2009
13593 posts
Posted on 10/1/21 at 9:54 am to
2011 Phillies deserve some love: Roy Halladay, Roy Oswalt, Cliff Lee, Cole Hamels
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