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re: Best defensive football player ever
Posted on 1/15/18 at 4:07 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
Posted on 1/15/18 at 4:07 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
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Posted on 1/15/18 at 4:15 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
LT, but Deacon Jones deserves some love. 21 1/2 sacks in 1967; 22 the following year.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 4:16 pm to sms151t
Champ Bailey is up there.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 4:16 pm to ThePTExperience1969
LT's specialty was as a pass rusher, although he was no slouch against the run either......pass coverage is where he had his weakness.
Lambert was devastating against the run.....he could put people out.....If you were a RB and caught a pass out in the flat, one on one Lambert was going to ruin your day....and he was mean, I tell ya, just mean and ornery
Lambert was devastating against the run.....he could put people out.....If you were a RB and caught a pass out in the flat, one on one Lambert was going to ruin your day....and he was mean, I tell ya, just mean and ornery
Posted on 1/15/18 at 4:20 pm to sms151t
I like your list with a few exceptions:
At ILB, no way the Pile Jumper belongs there. Derrick Brooks was much better than Lewis. He just wasn't a shameless self-promotion artist like Ray.
DE has to include Deacon and DT. Any all-time list has to include Derrick Thomas. This isnt even a discussion. I'd drop Peppers and put Deacon over him. I'd probably edge out JJ Watt at this point and put Doug Atkins in (10 time All Pro - of which 4 were first team - is hard to argue with).
I don't think Richard Seymour was ever a transcendent DT. I'd swap John Randle or Alan Page in there. Maybe the best pass rushers from the DT position ever.
Never thought Hamm was that great. Lived off the Steel Curtain/PSU reputation. Always thought Wilber Marshall was highly underrated. 3x All Pro, Defensive PotY in '92.
At ILB, no way the Pile Jumper belongs there. Derrick Brooks was much better than Lewis. He just wasn't a shameless self-promotion artist like Ray.
DE has to include Deacon and DT. Any all-time list has to include Derrick Thomas. This isnt even a discussion. I'd drop Peppers and put Deacon over him. I'd probably edge out JJ Watt at this point and put Doug Atkins in (10 time All Pro - of which 4 were first team - is hard to argue with).
I don't think Richard Seymour was ever a transcendent DT. I'd swap John Randle or Alan Page in there. Maybe the best pass rushers from the DT position ever.
Never thought Hamm was that great. Lived off the Steel Curtain/PSU reputation. Always thought Wilber Marshall was highly underrated. 3x All Pro, Defensive PotY in '92.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 4:25 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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Always thought Wilber Marshall was highly underrated. 3x All Pro, Defensive PotY in '92.
Despite all his greatness, Wilbur Marshall was never named to the NFL All-Decade teams for either the 1980s and/or 1990s and, in the 1980s, he possessed the same amount of All-Pro honors as Carl Banks did and more than John PHUCKING Anderson: 1, yet Carl Banks is held in higher regard by the HOF voters/sportswriters relative to that decade, weird
Posted on 1/15/18 at 4:48 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
Reggie White
Posted on 1/15/18 at 4:59 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
I'm only 26 so not like I can sit here and act like I've seen all the older dudes play (namely LT), but it's hard for me to imagine anyone ever being more dominant that Watt has been.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 5:00 pm to TheDeathValley
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Polamolu
I won’t deny that he was good, but he is also one of the most overrated ever.
This post was edited on 1/15/18 at 5:01 pm
Posted on 1/15/18 at 5:02 pm to Lester Earl
2000 Ray Lewis is up there. Simply unstoppable that year.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 5:13 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
Jack Tatum
Posted on 1/15/18 at 5:17 pm to Gary Busey
Jones, Grier and Olson were a formidable front and they did it in 12-14 game seasons
Merlin Olson and Rosy Grier were some of the nicest guys you could ever meet off the field
Merlin Olson and Rosy Grier were some of the nicest guys you could ever meet off the field
This post was edited on 1/15/18 at 5:19 pm
Posted on 1/15/18 at 5:18 pm to BenDover
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I'm only 26 so not like I can sit here and act like I've seen all the older dudes play (namely LT), but it's hard for me to imagine anyone ever being more dominant that Watt has been.
I'm in the same boat. I can't imagine someone being as dominant as Watt was in 2014. 20.5 sacks, 59 tackles, and he scored 5 TDs.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 5:19 pm to Rockbrc
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Jack Tatum
Nasty Nasty......NASTY
Posted on 1/15/18 at 5:20 pm to ThePTExperience1969
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Despite all his greatness, Wilbur Marshall was never named to the NFL All-Decade teams for either the 1980s and/or 1990s and
And that means what???? AGAIN Reading stats fromA book or watching a few highlights doesn't come close to watching week after week and year after year about how great A player was... One day you will get this......
Posted on 1/15/18 at 5:25 pm to VADawg
Check out Deacon Jones sort of the same type of player. Different era but just as effective
Posted on 1/15/18 at 5:35 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
Marcus Williams
Posted on 1/15/18 at 5:36 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
Marcus Williams
Posted on 1/15/18 at 5:36 pm to hoopsgalore
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he's already in the conversation
Posted on 1/15/18 at 5:48 pm to dukke v
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And that means what???? AGAIN Reading stats fromA book or watching a few highlights doesn't come close to watching week after week and year after year about how great A player was... One day you will get this......
I used that to make a point to SMS about how idiotic his reference to NFL All-Decade teams were as an indicator of greatness as relates to our argument about Harry Carson/Carl Banks
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