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re: Bengals players reportedly want team to consider bringing in Colin Kaepernick

Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:51 am to
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112624 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:51 am to
quote:

64? Maybe... 32, probably not.

32, without question.

Also, LOL at "maybe" to 64. Too funny
This post was edited on 9/18/17 at 10:52 am
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
27869 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:52 am to
Are you talking about the 32 starters or 32 best QBs in the league? Some teams have a backup that would be better than some teams starters. Jimmy G in New England for instance is better than Josh McCown.
Posted by cubsfan5150
NWA
Member since Nov 2007
17832 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:53 am to
All things considered? Yes, of course.

You need a starter for one season, maybe two if you draft a rookie.

Your team is bad, you know it, so you go cheap.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112624 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:54 am to
quote:

Are you talking about the 32 starters or 32 best QBs in the league? Some teams have a backup that would be better than some teams starters. Jimmy G in New England for instance is better than Josh McCown.



quote:

He is very very obviously 1 of the best 32 QBs in the league.
Posted by cubsfan5150
NWA
Member since Nov 2007
17832 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:54 am to
Bingo

Cincinnati's backup is highly thought of too

Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
36776 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:55 am to
quote:

Looked good in his first game.

Haven't watched the Ravens game yet, but doesn't look good.



And?

Are you saying the Browns should bench their rookie QB they believe is their future because he had a bad game in his second career start against a good defense?

I don't know if Kizer is the answer or not, but if that's what you're arguing, it's retarded.
Posted by lsuguy84
Madisonville
Member since Feb 2009
26283 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:56 am to
Post the numbers that support your claim. Otherwise you're throwing shite at the wall and hoping it sticks.
Posted by double d
Amarillo by morning
Member since Jun 2004
17056 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:56 am to
No owner wants to put up with the crap that will come with him. If he was really good, they'd have signed him but to take him will piss off a large percentage of any fanbase. Not to mention his stupid girlfriend all over social media bitching for him. Why put up with all of that?
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103125 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:57 am to
If AJ were that highly thought of, I doubt his teammates would be pushing to sign Kaep instead of playing him.

That being said, I just want the shite show to end and a horrible showing in Cincy should be the end of this.
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:58 am to
quote:

All things considered? Yes, of course.

Oof. I disagree, to say the least.
Posted by the_watcher
Jarule's House
Member since Nov 2005
3451 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:58 am to
quote:

Was there supposed to be a point attached to this post? Or were you using yards/game as the defining factor in a Dalton vs Kaep debate?


Being that there's so much NFL qb knowledge in this thread I assumed they already knew Dalton took the Bengals to the playoffs for 5 consecutive years from 2011-2015. They averaged 10 wins a season during that team. I'm sure you already knew that though.

What they may not know is the guy you are advocating for to replace him has, on average, thrown for 61 less yards per game. Meanwhile the 49ers were 8-8 in '13, 5-11 in '14, and as previously mentioned 1-10 in his eleven starts in '16.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103125 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:58 am to
Cincy may consider it if the alternative is losing the locker room and having a lame duck season.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
37111 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:58 am to
Might as well give it a try. The Bengals offensive line can't protect Dalton. Maybe a more mobile QB will be more effective.

My understanding is that Kaep runs a very specific offense but the Bengals have very little to lose with how things are going.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112624 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:59 am to
quote:

Post the numbers that support your claim. Otherwise you're throwing shite at the wall and hoping it sticks.
Are you insinuating that 32 NFL QBs have better numbers than Kaep?


Man, that's rich.


I'll give you 2...90+ QB rating last season and 4:1 TD INT ratio. What else would you like?
This post was edited on 9/18/17 at 11:00 am
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:59 am to
quote:

And?

Are you saying the Browns should bench their rookie QB they believe is their future because he had a bad game in his second career start against a good defense?

I don't know if Kizer is the answer or not, but if that's what you're arguing, it's retarded.


I was commenting on Kizer. Nothing to do with Kaep.

Bring your blood pressure down.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108354 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 11:03 am to
They really are almost identical, but Dalton gives you considerably more y/g passing. Seems worthless to bring him in.

Try AJ


This post was edited on 9/18/17 at 11:03 am
Posted by lsuguy84
Madisonville
Member since Feb 2009
26283 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 11:04 am to
Well I apologize. There were 25 QB's with a higher completion percentage last year. He was better than Osweiller, Bortles, Fitzpatrick and Newton in that regard.
Posted by Cap Crunch
Fire Alleva
Member since Dec 2010
54189 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 11:04 am to
Do people really still think the only reason he's not on team is because of talent? Do you really think with that amount of teams with shitty qb play that no one would take a chance on a guy that helped bring a team to a super bowl?

It's pretty clear this is about 3 issues: trying not to piss off your fanbase, avoiding a media circus, and questions about whether or not Kap would be fully focused on football.

If he never did this protest there's no doubt he'd be on a team right now.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112624 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 11:06 am to
quote:

They really are almost identical, but Dalton gives you considerably more y/g passing. Seems worthless to bring him in.

Try AJ
In fairness, Dalton is also 1 of the best 32 QBs in the NFL.


I'll take YPA over passing yards per game, personally though. But yes, they are similar from a career standpoint. Dalton had 1 great year, and he had an absurd Oline where he was never touched and took advantage of that. If you factor in Oline play and give each an Oline that isn't that dominant, I'd absolutely take Kaep over Dalton.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112624 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 11:07 am to
quote:

There were 25 QB's with a higher completion percentage last year. He was better than Osweiller, Bortles, Fitzpatrick and Newton in that regard.
That strengthens my argument.
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