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re: Average score for masters champ since 1990 is -11. Why do we say its an impossible course?
Posted on 4/15/26 at 11:09 am to Tiger1242
Posted on 4/15/26 at 11:09 am to Tiger1242
Neil from no laying up shot a 93 from the members tees on Monday.
Sunday pins.
Sunday pins.
This post was edited on 4/15/26 at 11:12 am
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Posted on 4/15/26 at 11:11 am to Choupique19
quote:That’s absolutely retarded
No he doesn't.
Posted on 4/15/26 at 11:18 am to ReauxlTide222
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Neil from no laying up shot a 93 from the members tees on Monday.
Sunday pins.
Dude must be the greatest tee to green player to ever live considering it surely took him 70+ putts to get around ANGC.
Posted on 4/15/26 at 11:22 am to Choupique19
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In the overall grand scheme of the argument, I would bet that a 5 handicap golfer could "win the Masters" by starting on the green. But the point of the scenario is that those greens are ridiculously hard for the regular weekend golfer, and I would bet that golfer would average over 3 strokes a hole.
You've argued against this the entire thread.
Of course the greens are hard.
Of course the amateur would struggle under normal circumstances.
But, pretending he can't AVERAGE under a 4 putt starting on the fringe is a far different argument.
Posted on 4/15/26 at 11:29 am to Choupique19
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Did you see Hatong Li putt one into Rae's Creek on Sunday?
From off the green. That's not the same as starting on the green. Any decent 5 handicap would dominate the masters if they started on the green. It's not even an argument.
Posted on 4/15/26 at 11:49 am to redfishfan
how is this pointless argument still going on haha
Posted on 4/15/26 at 12:23 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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He still wins very very easily
This is where you lose me. I’m not saying this cannot be done, but VERY easily?
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you'd only need to average 3.83 putts per hole to beat rory.
Yes, and every now and then, this pretend golfer will putt one off the green, and fool around and end up putting up a monster number. Hell, there’s a situation or two where they putt one into the creek I bet.
Posted on 4/15/26 at 12:32 pm to ReauxlTide222
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That’s absolutely retarded
Why would the 5 handicap get a caddy when he starts om the greens? You guys are all saying it’s a simple 2 or 3 putt. Easy, peasey, Japanesey.
Posted on 4/15/26 at 12:33 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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it surely took him 70+ putts to get around ANGC.
He had a caddy.
He missed every 5 footer on the back 9.
Posted on 4/15/26 at 12:39 pm to Choupique19
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You guys are all saying it’s a simple 2 or 3 putt.
No we're not.
Posted on 4/15/26 at 1:08 pm to TexasTiger08
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Yes, and every now and then, this pretend golfer will putt one off the green, and fool around and end up putting up a monster number. Hell, there’s a situation or two where they putt one into the creek I bet.
There also the situation where he 2 putts on the par 5 and makes a 2.
Posted on 4/15/26 at 1:29 pm to TexasTiger08
quote:Yes. Extremely easily
This is where you lose me. I’m not saying this cannot be done, but VERY easily?
Think how horrific having 66 putts in a round is. If you did that you would have won this masters by 12 strokes and at the all time record by a shite ton
This post was edited on 4/15/26 at 1:32 pm
Posted on 4/15/26 at 1:38 pm to Choupique19
quote:To control for variables and get as close to what the pros deal with as possible.
Why would the 5 handicap get a caddy when he starts om the greens? You guys are all saying it’s a simple 2 or 3 putt. Easy, peasey, Japanesey.
Posted on 4/15/26 at 1:39 pm to ReauxlTide222
No. He doesn’t get a practice round either. He is kidnapped in the middle of the night by Seals and delivered straight to the course on Thursday
Posted on 4/15/26 at 1:40 pm to redfishfan
quote:We’re probably eagling more par 5s out there.
There also the situation where he 2 putts on the par 5 and makes a 2.
Posted on 4/15/26 at 1:40 pm to lsupride87
Oh you think you can hit a major league fastball?
Here’s a fork
Here’s a fork
Posted on 4/15/26 at 1:42 pm to Tiger1242
3 tournaments have been WON with a + score...
Posted on 4/15/26 at 4:16 pm to Choupique19
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Why would the 5 handicap get a caddy
...because you want an apples to apples comparison between a pro and an amateur.
I mean, you could blindfold the amateur as well.
A reasonable person would think the amateur would have access to a caddy like the pro and some history and practice on the course similar to the pro. If you have to handicap the amateur in order to make your point, you really don't have one.
Posted on 4/15/26 at 4:17 pm to ReauxlTide222
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Oh you think you can hit a major league fastball?
Here’s a fork
exactly
Posted on 4/15/26 at 8:50 pm to moneyg
I think the whole “starting on the green” is being misconstrued a bit. Every time I’ve had the discussion with folks, it meant to me that the player has hit the green in regulation and is putting for birdie. I wouldn’t bet against a low single digit amateur golfer laying zero on the green doing enough to shoot a winning score. Putting for birdie every hole? A very different story.
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