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re: Atlanta Braves Trade Deadline

Posted on 8/1/23 at 10:33 am to
Posted by TrussvilleTide
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Posted on 8/1/23 at 10:33 am to
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I don't frequent this board often, but why tf does this guy post from his high-horse?



If you say the word "Bro" in your replies a time or two per sentence he will be more receptive
Posted by Broski
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Posted on 8/1/23 at 10:35 am to
Damn, that one exchange really touched a nerve with you, huh bro?
Posted by TrussvilleTide
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Posted on 8/1/23 at 10:35 am to
I'm just trying to help people learn to communicate with the natives, bro
Posted by 21zereaux
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 8/1/23 at 10:43 am to
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If the Twins are actually open to moving Sonny Gray like rumors suggest they are, I'd love to see AA get him.


I'd really like to see the Braves pick him up.
Posted by Finkle is Einhorn
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Posted on 8/1/23 at 10:49 am to
Hoping for a right handed bat to platoon with Rosario today and some bullpen help

ATL has the lineup to win it all and the starting pitching to win playoff games. Seriously worried about the bullpen as it currently sits. I don’t think they win with the arms they have now. I believe bullpens are what wins championships
Posted by Broski
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Posted on 8/1/23 at 10:52 am to
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I'm just trying to help people learn to communicate with the natives, bro


Look at you joining the hive.
Posted by 257WBY
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Posted on 8/1/23 at 10:56 am to
The Braves already have a right handed platoon with Eddie. Eddie hits well vs lefties. Trade for pitchers.
Posted by Hot Carl
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Posted on 8/1/23 at 11:12 am to
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Hoping for a right handed bat to platoon with Rosario


There seems to be a lack of left-handed starters in the NL right now. I have no data to back that up, but I can’t remember the last time I saw Ozzie hit RH. I’d be fine replacing Eddie with somebody better—his lack of effort letting balls drop right in front of him lately pisses me off to no end—and decreasing his role. But like somebody said, we need pitching, and trying to upgrade LF would just be a misallocation of resources we don’t have in great supply.

I wouldn’t mind Pillar getting some more starts against RHP, though.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 8/1/23 at 11:26 am to
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it's not overblown at all. AA flat out says it in any interview where the topic of discussion is adding new players to the roster. He goes into a lot of detail about his process to ensure the players he's bringing in are the right ones. I think the only reason Ozuna is still with the team is because he's a great fit in the clubhouse. Between the bad press and the contract, I think he would have dumped him without thinking twice if it wasn't for the clubhouse influence.

He goes to great lengths to talk about how clubhouse/character wasn't a focus of his in Toronto and how it came back to bite them in the arse on several occasions

Yep, he has called what he built in Toronto "stars and scrubs" and that he learned the hard way that that is not the way to go into team-building.
Posted by Broski
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Posted on 8/1/23 at 11:26 am to
Eddie in LF is not a problem.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
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Posted on 8/1/23 at 11:34 am to
Yeah Eddie isn't the best out there but he isn't a liability by any means.
Posted by Finkle is Einhorn
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Posted on 8/1/23 at 11:40 am to
I agree somewhat. But I’d rather them get Duvall and have him start against lefty’s. Plus his defense is way better than eddies
Posted by 257WBY
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 8/1/23 at 11:47 am to
I like Duvall, but he gets hurt too much. The Braves need relief pitching.
Posted by Broski
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Posted on 8/1/23 at 11:56 am to
We just got Brad Hand for nothing.

Great move
Posted by Hot Carl
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Posted on 8/1/23 at 11:59 am to
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There’s no one on the shitty farm that would cause me to lose sleep if traded but Grissom, AJSS, Alvarez, Schwellenbach, Phillips, Murphy, Dodd, Ritchie and Guanipa are the only tradable guys who are even more than lotto tickets to me.

Some teams have like 30+ guys better than the last few names on that list and most have at least 18-20.


I stole this from Grant McCauley. He was talking with another guy about the deadline and potential moves. The other guy said with the state of the farm, he didn’t think AA would give up more than 1 or 2 of those guys—pretty sure AJSS is our only top 100 prospect—and so he thought a “big” trade was unlikely.

Grant went the other way. Not that we’re gonna give up a bunch of “our” top prospects just to do it, but if the right trade presents itself, AA won’t be scared to pull the trigger because of the current weakness of the farm. A few points he made:

—the farm is down because we had a crazy stretch of our best homegrown guys coming up early and becoming fixtures (Ronnie, Ozzie, Riley, Harris, Fried, Strider, Soroka (pre-injury).

—that group mentioned earlier (AJSS, Grissom, and co) are good for US, but not thought of that highly around baseball (relative to other teams’ top rated prospects)

—because of that and all the arms we’ve taken the last few drafts, we’ll just replace our current top guys with likely better—and younger—ones in a year or 2

—being able to sign international players again is gonna really help fill out the farm with talent (seeing Ronnie, Ozzie, Ozuna, and Arcia having so much fun playing together has got to be a nice recruiting tool.) if that even matters—I’m not sure—maybe they just sign with whoever gives them the most money. Which leads me to the final point.

—the Braves really trust their scouting department to be able to identify guys and then the organization to develop them. But not just to identify them before they become Braves, but to identify prospects we can live with moving and ones we may see something in we’d rather keep. And AA has a good track record, in Atlanta at least, of not getting burned by guys he moves becoming stars for other teams. Those clubs whose top end prospects go 20-30 deep, how many actually ever make it? There may be a handful of “sure things,” but most are lotto tickets, and you don’t really know which ones are gonna pan out.

Grant was arguing that the Braves are better than most at guessing/predicting which ones are gonna hit. At least now. I mean how frustrated did we use to get when we had all these top prospects, but kept them too long and their once-high trade value became basically zero?

So Grant’s argument—and I agree with him—is that, while AA won’t be reckless (and will probably won’t guys under team control another couple years before moving some of our bigger names), he’s not gonna shy away from making the right deal
that gives us the best chance to win another World Series because he’s scared of the current state of the farm. I think they’re confident they can build it back up through the draft, international signings, and identifying which guys to keep and which you can live with moving.


And just an FYI, I know a lot of people talk about AA like he’s some sort of super genius. I heard one guy on a pod say he thinks he’s hands-down the best front office guy in all of professional sports. We see it on here too—“In AA we trust.” He’s got some weird cult of personality. I think he’s really smart, and I do trust him, but even though he’s the face, I don’t believe for one second he’s doing all this solo. I think one of his talents is to identify and hire the right people around him and throughout the organization, trusting them to do their jobs, getting their opinions on players, and then making the final call. So when I say “AA did this” or whatever, I’m mainly talking about him and the team he’s put in place working in concert rather than just him the man. Though he obviously has final day.

Holy shite, if that wasn’t a vintage Hot Carl long-arse trade-deadline post that almost nobody will ever read.

This post was edited on 8/1/23 at 12:01 pm
Posted by 21zereaux
Member since Aug 2017
1535 posts
Posted on 8/1/23 at 12:00 pm to
quote:

We just got Brad Hand for nothing.

Great move



He is fricking awful. I watched him for years with Cleveland and couldn't wait to ditch that fricker.
Posted by VADawg
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 8/1/23 at 12:04 pm to
Bowman on Hand:

quote:

Brad Hand adds more depth to the Braves’ bullpen mix. As I wrote yesterday, just getting a guy to eat innings like Richard Rodriguez did in 2021 could help your primary high-leverage guys in October
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 8/1/23 at 12:04 pm to
We gave up a 25 year old AA pitcher for a lefty reliever that is actually decent and has closing experience. It’s a good move.
Posted by 21zereaux
Member since Aug 2017
1535 posts
Posted on 8/1/23 at 12:06 pm to
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We gave up a 25 year old AA pitcher for a lefty reliever that is actually decent and has closing experience. It’s a good move.


He will fit right in with what we currently have, erratic and you never know what you'll get when he pitches. He is a Grossman/Mike Ford type of add.

edit - He reminds me of Will Smith. That is what we picked up.
This post was edited on 8/1/23 at 12:08 pm
Posted by K9
wayx....BOBO IN '19 &lt-- oops
Member since Sep 2012
26844 posts
Posted on 8/1/23 at 12:08 pm to
Not bad, but I want another high velo guy back there too.
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