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re: Arizona media criticize Marvin Harrison Jr. for being a disappointment
Posted on 12/23/24 at 4:15 pm to SirWinston
Posted on 12/23/24 at 4:15 pm to SirWinston
Well to be honest, no other team contending for a playoff spot would be any better with Murray as QB.
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Posted on 12/23/24 at 4:16 pm to SirWinston
Daniel Jones and Tommy Devito are not better for a WR simply because "they look downfield" 
Posted on 12/23/24 at 4:29 pm to SirWinston
The Cardinals seem to be more of a running team this year. They don’t throw a lot of passes and McBride is a better option than anyone else on the Giants. It’s not a zero sum game MHJNabers/BTJ could all turn out to be good
Posted on 12/23/24 at 4:34 pm to High C
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Is Nabers getting more targets because he gets open, catches the ball, and is efficient, or is he getting more targets because the Cardinals don’t actually like their generational WR and don’t work hard enough to game plan to get him the ball?
Nabers has the most targets in the league. And he’s missed 2 games this season. If he’s getting that many targets because he was getting open, catching the ball, and efficient, he wouldn’t be 14th in yards and 54th in TDs.
MHJ isn’t even the most targeted pass catcher on the Cardinals. McBride has 20% more targets than him.
I’ve only watched 3-4 Cardinals games. I’m sure there are things he can be doing better but it seems like they also could being using him better. Seems similar to how JSN was being used last season for Seahawks in terms of there is not a ton a variety in what they are asking MHJ to run.
Posted on 12/23/24 at 4:42 pm to Bench McElroy
Overrated. No heart.
Posted on 12/23/24 at 4:49 pm to KillerNut9
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Nabers has the most targets in the league. And he’s missed 2 games this season. If he’s getting that many targets because he was getting open, catching the ball, and efficient, he wouldn’t be 14th in yards and 54th in TDs.
Maybe it’s a function of Jones, DeVito, et al. Maybe (oh, wow) it’s a combination of things both in and out of his control. How many drops does Nabers have this year?
Posted on 12/23/24 at 4:59 pm to High C
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Maybe (oh, wow) it’s a combination of things both in and out of his control.
You’re proving my point of my original reply in this thread. There’s context to any stat you look at.
A gap of 250 receiving yards is noticeable. Then you see that comes along with a gigantic targeting difference. But yet the guy with 54 less targets has 3 more TDs.
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How many drops does Nabers have this year?
9. Tied for 2nd most.
Posted on 12/23/24 at 5:15 pm to KillerNut9
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You’re proving my point of my original reply in this thread. There’s context to any stat you look at.
Of course there is. However, I don’t think that there’s a strong argument against Harrison being a disappointment this year.
Posted on 12/23/24 at 5:30 pm to swagsurfin7
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Larry Fitzgerald is arguably one of the Top 5 WRs to ever play the game.
Jerry Rice
Megatron
Randy Moss
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These 4 are no doubt better, then you have a whole class of guys like coincidentally Marvin Harrison. Larry Fitzgerald was awesome at what he did, and his style allowed him to do it for a really long time. But what I said is at their best they aren’t the same. And I don’t know how you could argue that. Megatron and Randy Moss could change the game with one play at any time
This post was edited on 12/23/24 at 5:31 pm
Posted on 12/23/24 at 5:46 pm to Bench McElroy
i'm a big zona fan, watch all their games and kyler is a huge part of the deal...drop back scramble, through a bad pass
Posted on 12/23/24 at 5:50 pm to Bench McElroy
If his name was Marvin Smith no one would know who he was.
Posted on 12/23/24 at 6:58 pm to Bench McElroy
I was on the sidelines for the Panthers game yesterday. He was a complete non-factor.
Posted on 12/23/24 at 7:14 pm to catfish 62
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Seems a bit of an overreaction. He’s not having a bad year statistically but was given ridiculous expectations
Wut lol
Posted on 12/23/24 at 7:18 pm to Bench McElroy
He's closer to slant Boi Michael Thomas or Jarvis Landry than he is larry Fitzgerald.
People keep acting as if Fitz was slow, he was most definitely not.
People keep acting as if Fitz was slow, he was most definitely not.
Posted on 12/23/24 at 7:52 pm to Fun Bunch
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This shouldn't be surprising to anyone that actually paid attention. MHj was a good player. He was just incredibly overrated and players like Nabers were better than him to anyone that was objective
This paragraph is gonna give a few Buckeye fans an anyurism
They went so hard in the paint for this guy
Posted on 12/23/24 at 7:59 pm to Bench McElroy
Another product of people over valuing Ohio State players.
Posted on 12/23/24 at 11:54 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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I see him as a Larry Fitzgerald type. He’ll have a long career accumulate stats, but he’ll never be in the conversation for the best in the league
Well this is certainly a take
Posted on 12/24/24 at 12:05 am to dukke v
But the fourth pick in the draft needs to catch more than half his passes to justify the investment. That's atrocious.
Posted on 12/24/24 at 12:14 am to Magnus
Murray was always going to be limited by being 5'10, especially seeing downfield.
McBride having 0 touchdowns is a weird one though.
McBride having 0 touchdowns is a weird one though.
Posted on 12/24/24 at 7:14 am to Bench McElroy
This is not surprising. He was overrated in college, overrated in the pros. Malik was robbed of the biletnikoff.
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