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re: Any chance the Big 12 reconsiders expansion? How long will AAC stay with 11 teams?
Posted on 12/31/19 at 8:15 am to chalmetteowl
Posted on 12/31/19 at 8:15 am to chalmetteowl
Baylor vs K-State would have been a good game for the slot this year.
CBS could get most other conferences on the cheap, and should find one to fill that slot quickly.
With cord cutting becoming more common, networks still carry a big stick.
CBS could get most other conferences on the cheap, and should find one to fill that slot quickly.
With cord cutting becoming more common, networks still carry a big stick.
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Posted on 12/31/19 at 8:44 am to Ramblin Wreck
They should have taken Memphis and Cincy 2 years ago. They already screwed the pooch when they didn't take Louisville and Cincy with WVU.
Div 1
Oklahoma
Okie State
WVU
Kansas
TCU
Cincy
Div 2
Texas
TT
Baylor
K-State
ISU
Memphis
9 conference games
Permanent rivals
OU-Texas
Okie State-TT
WVU-ISU
Kansas-KState
TCU-Baylor
Cincy-Memphis
Div 1
Oklahoma
Okie State
WVU
Kansas
TCU
Cincy
Div 2
Texas
TT
Baylor
K-State
ISU
Memphis
9 conference games
Permanent rivals
OU-Texas
Okie State-TT
WVU-ISU
Kansas-KState
TCU-Baylor
Cincy-Memphis
Posted on 12/31/19 at 9:29 am to Ramblin Wreck
This is rich coming from a GT fan
The ACC has 14 teams and was historically the worst power 5 league ever this year
The ACC has 14 teams and was historically the worst power 5 league ever this year
Posted on 12/31/19 at 9:40 am to Ramblin Wreck
quote:
The Big 12 needs to consider adding some teams to build their strength of schedule
No, the Big 12 needs to require their teams to play at least one P5 opponent every season.
If Baylor would have won the Big 12 but been let out, it would have been because UTSA, SFA, and Rice were their 3 OOC games.
Posted on 12/31/19 at 9:53 am to Mizz-SEC
quote:
True, but who wants to watch Baylor vs. K-State
Probably more people than would watch Mizzpoo
Posted on 12/31/19 at 9:58 am to Ramblin Wreck
B12 needs Houston.
There was also a stupid rumor recently that Missouri state had been in talks with the B12 about what they need to do to get there. That would be hilarious
There was also a stupid rumor recently that Missouri state had been in talks with the B12 about what they need to do to get there. That would be hilarious
This post was edited on 12/31/19 at 1:05 pm
Posted on 12/31/19 at 10:10 am to idlewatcher
quote:
True that, but why does ND get to remain conferenceless? I'm assuming they get a pass b/c of their history and playing on NBC every freaking Saturday.
The ACC totally wimped out in allowing ND to be in all sports and have 5 games from ACC teams every year.
Posted on 12/31/19 at 12:07 pm to Dawgwithnoname
The expansion ship sailed when TEXAS decided it didn’t want two more mouths to feed.
Posted on 12/31/19 at 1:05 pm to Ramblin Wreck
Big 12 is the third richest conference and second best football conference. Also a strong chance Nebraska and the AZ schools join the Big 12 during the next realignment. Don't be surprised if FSU and Clemson also do.
This post was edited on 12/31/19 at 1:12 pm
Posted on 12/31/19 at 1:24 pm to Ramblin Wreck
Based on this logic:
LSU 63 OU 28
LSU 66 Vandy 38
The Big12 should grab Vandy and become a real powerhouse.
LSU 63 OU 28
LSU 66 Vandy 38
The Big12 should grab Vandy and become a real powerhouse.
This post was edited on 12/31/19 at 1:25 pm
Posted on 12/31/19 at 1:30 pm to LSUGrad9295
quote:
quote: Who are they going to add that brings in money? Y'all can have Texas A&M and Missouri back...
I like Mizzou in the SEC but if I was realigning the major conferences geographically I would definitely put Mizzou, Arky, TAM, Colorado and the Nubs back in the Big 12. I would drop WVA and probably go ahead and add enough teams to reach 16 teams.....it's where the conferences are headed anyways.....4-5 super conferences of 16 teams.
Posted on 12/31/19 at 1:36 pm to Bass Tiger
quote:
I like Mizzou in the SEC but if I was realigning the major conferences geographically I would definitely put Mizzou, Arky, TAM, Colorado and the Nubs back in the Big 12. I would drop WVA and probably go ahead and add enough teams to reach 16 teams.....it's where the conferences are headed anyways.....4-5 super conferences of 16 teams.
I wish we could work out something that brings WVu into the ACC and keep Big 12 whole...
Posted on 12/31/19 at 2:01 pm to tccdc
The Big 12 isn’t going to expand until they routinely get left out of the CFP. The conference that needs to expand is the AAC....and badly!!! As currently constructed, they gave zero chance to make the CFP. Once UConn leaves, that leaves them with 11 memebers, expand by 5 schools to be the first to 16. They need to do EVERHTHING in their power to add Boise St, BYU, App St, Air Force, Colorado St.
AAC East:
#20 App St** (13-1)
#17 Memphis (12-2)
#20 Cincinnati (10-3)
#23 Navy (10-2)
UCF (10-3)
Temple (8-5)
ECU (4-8)
USF (4-8)
AAC West:
#19 Boise St** (10-2)
Air Force** (11-2)
SMU (10-3)
BYU** (7-6)
Colorado St** (4-8)
Tulane (6-6)
Houston (4-8)
Tulsa (4-8)
If the AAC doesn’t try and expand, then they aren’t serious about making the CFP.
AAC East:
#20 App St** (13-1)
#17 Memphis (12-2)
#20 Cincinnati (10-3)
#23 Navy (10-2)
UCF (10-3)
Temple (8-5)
ECU (4-8)
USF (4-8)
AAC West:
#19 Boise St** (10-2)
Air Force** (11-2)
SMU (10-3)
BYU** (7-6)
Colorado St** (4-8)
Tulane (6-6)
Houston (4-8)
Tulsa (4-8)
If the AAC doesn’t try and expand, then they aren’t serious about making the CFP.
Posted on 12/31/19 at 2:02 pm to castorinho
34.7 M each?
Yea, nobody is jumping ship except to the B10 or SEC, and there’s no way they add someone else to take a cut into the pie.
Yea, nobody is jumping ship except to the B10 or SEC, and there’s no way they add someone else to take a cut into the pie.
Posted on 12/31/19 at 3:06 pm to GoldenGuy
The B1G is the next conference up for media rights negotiations. It wouldn’t surprise me at all if the B1G adds Texas and Oklahoma. The timing would be perfect and the money would astronomical. Oklahoma has already made mention of it.
Posted on 12/31/19 at 3:34 pm to Buckeye Backer
quote:
It wouldn’t surprise me at all if the B1G adds Texas
Don't see it happening if they still have their own network.
Posted on 12/31/19 at 4:04 pm to GoldenGuy
quote:right. It's not sec or BI10 money, but it's 5 mil more than the PAC 12 and ACC are bringing in.
34.7 M each?
Yea, nobody is jumping ship except to the B10 or SEC, and there’s no way they add someone else to take a cut into the pie.
As on OU fan, competition-wise, the conference is holding us back. Sure you'd have way less conf titles, but when you do get a conf title, a national championship would be a strong possibility. Clemson is an anomaly.
But like I said, money is coming in so they don't give that much of a shite.
Posted on 12/31/19 at 4:36 pm to Switzerland
quote:
Big 12 is the third richest conference and second best football conference. Also a strong chance Nebraska and the AZ schools join the Big 12 during the next realignment. Don't be surprised if FSU and Clemson also do.
It's a little early to be this drunk on NYE.
Posted on 1/1/20 at 12:53 am to Mizz-SEC
quote:
True, but who wants to watch Baylor vs. K-State?
Probably the same amount of people that want to watch Bama destroy Cowbell State every year while the rest of the conference is playing the regional schools for the blind.
Posted on 1/1/20 at 2:15 am to LSUGrad9295
quote:
Y'all can have Texas A&M and Missouri back...
They’re not taking a $9M paycut to deal with Texas’s bullshite.
The big trend in sports right now from a money standpoint is that millennials prefer streaming services to cable TV sports packages by a big margin, and even some older viewers who were fine with cable in the past are switching over—and that movement is all one-way (i.e. very few people who have streaming services are giving them up to get cable TV packages). That has a significant impact on the financial logic of realignment, because conferences aren’t going to make money by expanding their physical footprint to the same degree they did over the past decade. Instead it’s going to be about adding teams with big, national followings; geography only really matters if the expansion target is so unwieldy that complications which result from that unwieldiness outweigh profit.
For example, and I am not advocating for this move, but consider the case of Clemson and the SEC. Even if Clemson had been as good in the 2000s as it was in the 2010s, the SEC would never have seriously considered adding Clemson, because they already had all the meaningful South Carolina markets for cable TV dollars. A team like North Carolina or Virginia Tech would have been a much more likely target. But this time around, Clemson might be a valuable enough brand overall to be a real target, since the future is in finding teams with a large following that can compete for football titles. Meanwhile there’s virtually no chance of picking up anyone from NC or VA, since none of them have nationally appealing football brands, and basketball doesn’t make enough money for the SEC to care, even for a blueblood like UNC.
TL;DR:
+ It’s about streaming services and big followings, not cable TV markets and big cities
+ Specific to the Big XII transplants, even if they’ve been an awkward fit (mainly Missouri), they and the conference both make way too much money off their association to consider a change in course
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