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re: Adrian Peterson gonna Adrian Peterson...ordered to pay $8.3m after defaulting on loan

Posted on 1/15/21 at 9:21 am to
Posted by Eighteen
Member since Dec 2006
33881 posts
Posted on 1/15/21 at 9:21 am to
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Evander Kane of San Jose Sharks filed for bankruptcy the other day

27 MILLION in debt



How. Just how. Jesus frick

Stereotypes will never die
This post was edited on 1/15/21 at 9:21 am
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
19303 posts
Posted on 1/15/21 at 9:21 am to
Where are all those agents who get big commissions out of these players' contracts? No financial advisors as part of a package of services? One prominent agent said his worst time of the mth was the first week, as that is when all his clients' child support payments are due & he's always scrambling to get them out timely.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58767 posts
Posted on 1/15/21 at 9:22 am to
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How does a case related to defaulted loans make it to the state supreme court?



The NY State Supreme Court is the lowest-level court in the State of NY. What you think of as the "Supreme Court" is called the Court of Appeals in NY.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
120282 posts
Posted on 1/15/21 at 9:22 am to
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At 16% rate. Last I checked, interest rates are pretty low.


Apparently AP is just as dumb as your average F250 baw with a 10 year note at 8%
Posted by MMauler
Member since Jun 2013
19216 posts
Posted on 1/15/21 at 9:51 am to
Maybe he can sell all of the chains, rings, and other bling he used that $5.2 million to purchase to pay off this judgment. Of course, he'll only get about $350 for all of that crap.
This post was edited on 1/15/21 at 9:53 am
Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
8656 posts
Posted on 1/15/21 at 10:05 am to
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Thrivest Specialty Funding,


There has to be a Breaking Bad level story about a company that is the equivalent of Check into Cash for pro athletes.
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
15139 posts
Posted on 1/15/21 at 12:38 pm to
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Peterson reportedly did not appear in court to argue his side, nor had any lawyer there representing him.



Ah, the old "If I don't show up in court, it didn't happen" defense.

Smooth move Ex-Lax
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26348 posts
Posted on 1/15/21 at 12:41 pm to
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How does a case related to defaulted loans make it to the state supreme court?



It’s a misnomer. The NY Supreme Court is the trial level court in each county. The NY Court of Appeals is the state’s highest court and the one that functions like other states’ “Supreme Court”.

ETA: oops. Already answered.
This post was edited on 1/15/21 at 12:42 pm
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 1/15/21 at 12:57 pm to
How can someone be so stupid to make that much money and need a loan????!!!!
Posted by sicboy
Because Awesome
Member since Nov 2010
77614 posts
Posted on 1/15/21 at 1:04 pm to
I'm not much of a fan of him now, but I remember Dave Ramsey saying that people who earn their fortune, work their way from the bottom, have a better appreciation for money and are a lot smarter with it. Lottery winners, or pro athletes, who get it in one shot aren't prepared for that and often times lose it quickly.
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
15139 posts
Posted on 1/15/21 at 1:42 pm to
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How can someone be so stupid to make that much money and need a loan????!!!!


Hell, look at Mike Tyson. It was said he made over $400 million dollars in his career and filed for bankruptcy.

Same with Evander Holyfield who "Lived Large" for years in a 44K+ sq. ft. mansion sitting on 104 acres and fathered several children with different "Baby Mamas" and on the hook for huge amounts of child support.

Athletes are not the brightest bulbs when it comes to finances.
Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
Member since Apr 2015
22533 posts
Posted on 1/15/21 at 1:48 pm to
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How can someone be so stupid to make that much money and need a loan????!!!!

It happens to most athletes. Baseball players are kind of exception. They’re involved in a business but they don’t know how to run one. So a lot of them don’t understand finances. Also your average 22 year old is not likely to be that wise if given tens of millions of dollars. You also have multiple divorces, children, lawsuits, and long lost family and friends coming out of the nowhere to beg you for “just a little” money.

The smart ones do things like live off their endorsements. But most athletes aren’t famous enough to pull in a lot of money from endorsements.
Posted by stlslick
St.Louis,Mo
Member since Nov 2012
14054 posts
Posted on 1/15/21 at 2:48 pm to
that is a lot of cash

Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
10420 posts
Posted on 1/15/21 at 3:19 pm to
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How does a case related to defaulted loans make it to the state supreme court?
In NY, the "Supreme Court" is actually the initial trial court.
Posted by WaterLink
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2015
17259 posts
Posted on 1/15/21 at 3:42 pm to
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How. Just how. Jesus frick

Stereotypes will never die


Same reason people who win the lottery blow through their money so often. A lot of athletes don't take into account taxes and other dues. Let's say you make $80 mil throughout your career. After taxes (which is high for that income level), agent dues, union dues, etc etc they're left with (ballparking here) maybe 1/4 of that, so around $20 mil or so of actual expendable income. But their spending habits act like they're taking home the full $80 mil.

So it's like "Hey I only spent $40 mil throughout my career, now I can just live off of the rest of the $40 mil" and then they find out they're actually $20 mil in the hole, and those game checks stop coming in and those expensive arse mortgages and car notes for all the gifts they gave their friends and family can't be paid anymore.

It really sucks, you spend your entire young life putting your body through hell with the hopes of securing the future for yourself and your loved ones and then on the other side of retirement you find out you don't have shite except eternal aches and pains and brain damage. Financial literacy classes and meetings during college needs to be more commonplace, I know Ohio State and other schools have programs like that for their athletes and it's a start. I hate seeing this story play out over and over.
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
15316 posts
Posted on 1/15/21 at 4:05 pm to
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Peterson’s loan from DVS in 2016 was reportedly used to pay back loans of nearly $3.2 million to Thrivest Specialty Funding, which his lawyer later described as “a pay day lender for professional athletes” and $1.34 million to Crown Bank.


Using a loan to pay off a loan. One of the easiest ways to go into bigger debt.

Also, am I the only that didn't know there existed pay day loans for millionaires.
Posted by Glorious
Mobile
Member since Aug 2014
24526 posts
Posted on 1/15/21 at 4:15 pm to
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It happens to most athletes. Baseball players are kind of exception. They’re involved in a business but they don’t know how to run one. So a lot of them don’t understand finances. Also your average 22 year old is not likely to be that wise if given tens of millions of dollars. You also have multiple divorces, children, lawsuits, and long lost family and friends coming out of the nowhere to beg you for “just a little” money.

The smart ones do things like live off their endorsements. But most athletes aren’t famous enough to pull in a lot of money from endorsements.



Rookies probably also see that 5 million a year salary and not realize that Uncle Sam is about to take half right off the top. Also some agents flat out steal from them

The one where nobody should have sympathy is kids. After one cleat chaser earns 18 years of $5,000 monthly child support payments straight out of your wallet just for laying on her back for 5 minutes, you should probably learn your lesson.
This post was edited on 1/15/21 at 4:17 pm
Posted by stlslick
St.Louis,Mo
Member since Nov 2012
14054 posts
Posted on 1/15/21 at 4:20 pm to
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Thrivest Specialty Funding, which his lawyer later described as “a pay day lender for professional athletes


We all missed our calling. What a fricking grift, that will make a ton of dough off these morons.

Posted by HWD123
Member since Dec 2020
94 posts
Posted on 1/15/21 at 6:29 pm to
Isn’t it racist for them to demand him pay it back.? After all it’s not his fault he never learned to manage money. The owners just didn’t pay him enough. It’s the new American way.
Posted by Feral
Member since Mar 2012
12417 posts
Posted on 1/15/21 at 6:47 pm to
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Also, am I the only that didn't know there existed pay day loans for millionaires.


I didn't know about them until the 2011 NFL lockout when it was reported that numerous players from 16 different NFL teams, including guys like Vince Young, were already taking out high risk loans because they had either run out of money or were at risk of doing so if they started missing game checks.

NFL Players Are Already Taking Out High-Interest Loans To Survive The Lockout

Most of these loans are short term and in the neighborhood of 25% interest, and escalate to as much as 36% if they default.

One thing I didn't know (but makes sense) is that these professional athlete payday loans require players to take out insurance policies in case of injury, which ratchets up the cost of the money they're borrowing.
This post was edited on 1/15/21 at 6:49 pm
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