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re: AAC Commissioner: BCS was fairer system than what we have now
Posted on 12/17/20 at 9:57 am to I Bleed Garnet
Posted on 12/17/20 at 9:57 am to I Bleed Garnet
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What do you mean nobody knows?
Look at a simulated BCS the last couple years and the final four
They’ve always been the same
You edited out the part where I explained it.
Posted on 12/17/20 at 9:59 am to ragincajun03
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24 would amount to a lot of games for these college players, and I honestly wouldn’t want to shorten the regular season
Then why is it good for every other division? Is their safety, academics, and wellness important?
Posted on 12/17/20 at 10:02 am to sms151t
Just seems like a lot for college football, but hell, looking back at the previous season JMU & NDS played 16 games. Nicholls played 14.
I’m always good with more FBS football.
I’m always good with more FBS football.
Posted on 12/17/20 at 10:30 am to ragincajun03
I think 8 is the perfect number. 5 conference champions, 1 G5 Champion (explained below) and 2 highest ranked at large teams remaining.
Goal with structure is to give every FBS team an OBJECTIVE path to the playoff via conference championship, without having to have any team play more than a maximum of 15 games (1 more than the 14 max played by the Champion today).
This structure would give every FBS team an objective path to the playoff via conference championship, and then the 2 at large spots can account for differences in conference strength in given years. If you don't make it, you can complain, but you also could have just won your conference.
P5:I think divisions should be done away with, but each conference can decide for themselves how they want to select their Champion. So those that complain about a bad division can take it up with their Conference (though, looking back through years, it would be very rare that a team with more than 2 losses won a conference).
P5 plays same number of games as today, with only the quarterfinal round added (I say on campus at higher seed to give stakes to seeding).
G5: This is where it gets a bit more radical. Since goal is to give objective path to all 5 of them as well with only one spot.
G5 starts in Week 0. Currently, they play 12 games like everyone else, mostly 8 conference/4 OOC.
In my scenario: Play 10 games starting in week zero. 8 conference, 2 OOC, 1 bye week (11 weeks).
They'd finish the 11 weeks first weekend of November. The teams that don't make conference championships can still play 2 more games in November, scheduling how they want amongst each other (2020 has shown this possible) to get to 12 games.
2nd Weekend November: G5 Conference Championships
3rd Weekend of November: G5 Play-in Game, matching lowest 2 ranked G5 Conference Champs. Other 3 champs get a "bye" week.
4th Weekend of November (Thanksgiving): G5 Semi-Finals
First Weekend of December: G5 Finals is played on Conference Championship weekend. Winner gets the G5 spot in Playoffs.
Only problem I see, is if the G5 champ ran table to finals, they'd play 16 or 17 games technically, which may be too much, but think there's enough flexibility to make it work. And it'd likely be rare that happens!
Goal with structure is to give every FBS team an OBJECTIVE path to the playoff via conference championship, without having to have any team play more than a maximum of 15 games (1 more than the 14 max played by the Champion today).
This structure would give every FBS team an objective path to the playoff via conference championship, and then the 2 at large spots can account for differences in conference strength in given years. If you don't make it, you can complain, but you also could have just won your conference.
P5:I think divisions should be done away with, but each conference can decide for themselves how they want to select their Champion. So those that complain about a bad division can take it up with their Conference (though, looking back through years, it would be very rare that a team with more than 2 losses won a conference).
P5 plays same number of games as today, with only the quarterfinal round added (I say on campus at higher seed to give stakes to seeding).
G5: This is where it gets a bit more radical. Since goal is to give objective path to all 5 of them as well with only one spot.
G5 starts in Week 0. Currently, they play 12 games like everyone else, mostly 8 conference/4 OOC.
In my scenario: Play 10 games starting in week zero. 8 conference, 2 OOC, 1 bye week (11 weeks).
They'd finish the 11 weeks first weekend of November. The teams that don't make conference championships can still play 2 more games in November, scheduling how they want amongst each other (2020 has shown this possible) to get to 12 games.
2nd Weekend November: G5 Conference Championships
3rd Weekend of November: G5 Play-in Game, matching lowest 2 ranked G5 Conference Champs. Other 3 champs get a "bye" week.
4th Weekend of November (Thanksgiving): G5 Semi-Finals
First Weekend of December: G5 Finals is played on Conference Championship weekend. Winner gets the G5 spot in Playoffs.
Only problem I see, is if the G5 champ ran table to finals, they'd play 16 or 17 games technically, which may be too much, but think there's enough flexibility to make it work. And it'd likely be rare that happens!
This post was edited on 12/17/20 at 10:42 am
Posted on 12/17/20 at 11:03 am to floridatigah
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You edited out the part where I explained it.
The BCS had a coaches poll
This has a coaches poll
It’s the same thing.
People want the BCS back now? We’ve never had an issue with the top 4 in any year that this has happened
Posted on 12/17/20 at 11:06 am to Bench McElroy
I think 12 is the magic number. All 10 conference champions and two at-large. Top 4 get byes into the quarterfinals. First round and Quarters are played on the field of the higher seed, and use existing semi and championship locations for those rounds. Every conference gets a fair shake and holding two rounds on campus would be amazing atmospheres (post-Covid). Give credits like the NCAA tournament based on how far a conference rep goes to distribute the payout.
Posted on 12/17/20 at 11:07 am to I Bleed Garnet
AAC wants the BCS back because, as the Big East, they had a seat at the table because they used to have Miami and Virginia Tech.
I think the only current AAC team which ever played in the old Big East was Temple and they got kicked out for being non-competitive.
The other 10 members are mainly former C-USA teams. Put Southern Miss in there and you probably have their charter membership.
I think the only current AAC team which ever played in the old Big East was Temple and they got kicked out for being non-competitive.
The other 10 members are mainly former C-USA teams. Put Southern Miss in there and you probably have their charter membership.
Posted on 12/17/20 at 11:18 am to teke184
Cincy and USF were in the Big East from 2005-2013, when it changed to AAC in 2013 after Catholic 7 left.
Temple was in Big East from 1991-2004, then again in 2013.
The remaining, current AAC members joined Big East in 2013, right before it became the AAC (Memphis, Houston, SMU, UCF, Tulane, & ECU from CUSA and Navy from Independence).
Temple was in Big East from 1991-2004, then again in 2013.
The remaining, current AAC members joined Big East in 2013, right before it became the AAC (Memphis, Houston, SMU, UCF, Tulane, & ECU from CUSA and Navy from Independence).
Posted on 12/17/20 at 11:43 am to Bench McElroy
8 team playoff: Conference Champs + Top G5 get auto bids, and 2 At Large. Top 4 host home game first round. Must be conference champ to be Top 4 (At larges must have away game). Solved.
Posted on 12/17/20 at 11:46 am to Dire Wolf
There really needs to be more anger over what’s going on to the g5. If there was any year to give them an opportunity it’s this one and instead they’re telling them they don’t give 2 shits.
This post was edited on 12/17/20 at 2:03 pm
Posted on 12/17/20 at 11:46 am to Caymus
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It should be a playoff system using the BCS formula.
But how else will these old hacks that “watch” college football get a paycheck and be relevant?
Posted on 12/17/20 at 12:48 pm to pjk481
If you're going to have 8 teams and that wacky G5 tournament, why not just have 10 teams and invite the 10 conference champions?
Posted on 12/17/20 at 1:06 pm to teke184
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I think the only current AAC team which ever played in the old Big East was Temple and they got kicked out for being non-competitive.
USF and Cincinnati played in the BCS Big East as well
Cinci won the big east twice under Brian Kelly and went to the Orange and Sugar Bowl
Posted on 12/17/20 at 1:16 pm to sms151t
quote:in most of the history of college football, it’s been
champion isn’t always the best team by the way
Posted on 12/17/20 at 1:22 pm to WildManGoose
Easy, simple , done
10 conference champions
Top 6 seeds get a bye.
Bottom 4 play week 1 of playoffs and then we advance to an 8 team tournament.
No wild cards, no at large bids. If you’re not conference champ, you’re not in. Takes out all the bullshite eye test and no drama. If you didn’t win your conference, that’s why you’re not in playoff, not because someone didn’t vote you in. No group of 5 can complain as they are now all given shots every year, so is each power 5 conference.
10 conference champions
Top 6 seeds get a bye.
Bottom 4 play week 1 of playoffs and then we advance to an 8 team tournament.
No wild cards, no at large bids. If you’re not conference champ, you’re not in. Takes out all the bullshite eye test and no drama. If you didn’t win your conference, that’s why you’re not in playoff, not because someone didn’t vote you in. No group of 5 can complain as they are now all given shots every year, so is each power 5 conference.
This post was edited on 12/17/20 at 1:23 pm
Posted on 12/17/20 at 1:59 pm to Bench McElroy
I don’t know why they ever got rid of the computers.
When they announced going to 4 I was stoked.
When they announced a committee of people I knew it was going to be a disaster.
There’s zero reason why they can’t just use the computers. But of course they wouldn’t have their TV show and talking points.
When they announced going to 4 I was stoked.
When they announced a committee of people I knew it was going to be a disaster.
There’s zero reason why they can’t just use the computers. But of course they wouldn’t have their TV show and talking points.
Posted on 12/17/20 at 2:09 pm to tiggerthetooth
I think we all need to accept the fact that no one will ever be truly happy with the way we select a national champion. The only way to make it "fair" is to completely blow up the system and remake it in an image that looks more like the NFL division/playoff system.
Posted on 12/17/20 at 2:11 pm to Bench McElroy
How about a separate national championship for the Group of 5? After all...several of those schools were Division I-AA twenty years ago.
Ga. State, Ga. Southern, Appy State, Western Ky, Troy, South Fla, Liberty...none were Division I in 2000.
Ga. State, Ga. Southern, Appy State, Western Ky, Troy, South Fla, Liberty...none were Division I in 2000.
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