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re: A reminder of Alabama football recruiting before Nick Saban

Posted on 1/10/24 at 10:08 pm to
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
75867 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 10:08 pm to
Do numbers of national titles before he got to Tuscaloosa next.

Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
22797 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 10:43 pm to
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, and if you believe that was absolutely natural, purely because of Saban’s recruiting prowess, with no cheating whatsoever, you live in a fantasy world


Of course Saban cheated, but I still think he played the recruiting game better than anyone else.

Posted by BurrowToChase
Member since Nov 2021
418 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 12:13 am to
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That class with Julio changed everything, then coming out and stomping clemson and uga, we knew it was on. What a fricking run.


It’s over. Misery upcoming
Posted by BurrowToChase
Member since Nov 2021
418 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 12:14 am to
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Do numbers of national titles before he got to Tuscaloosa next.


We all know bama was cheating before saban as well. What’s your point
Posted by DownSouthCrawfish
Simcoe Strip - He/Him/Helicopter
Member since Oct 2011
36384 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 3:27 am to
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2011 - 1
2012 - 1
2013 - 1
2014 - 1
2015 - 1
2016 - 1
2017 - 1


frick this stretch
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35551 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 3:41 am to
Bama put plants on the NCAA so they could never be judged again after Albert Means. The NCAA is just a collective of random University dudes...and Bama stacked the Court.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37547 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 7:02 am to
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Y'all are fricking ignorant if you think Alabama is going to fall like Nebraska


Absolutely not. But the days of your program being head, shoulders, and belly button better th an everyone else talent wise is over. Again, I cannot wait for your fanbase to react to a 9-3 season every 2-3 years.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30645 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 7:08 am to
What was it like 1960 thru 1982
Or during the Stallings years
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65132 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 7:12 am to
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Or during the Stallings years



Stallings was actually not THAT great of a recruiter. The Class of '91 notwithstanding, most of his classes failed to live up to the lofty standards of the program.
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
22197 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 7:14 am to
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All of that success and Saban still wasn’t able to field a team as good as LSU’s 2019 team. Greatest team in the history of college football and Saban had no part of it.

This comment comes across as nothing more than an inferiority complex.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32531 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 7:16 am to
Winning percentage with Bear 81%, winning percentage with Saban 87%, winning percentage between the two? 67%
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
83483 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 7:22 am to
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2002 - 30
2003 - 49
2004 - 15
2005 - 18
2006 - 11
Sweet

It was also nice coming off scholarship restrictions and bowl bans. Saban has also spruced the place up a bit.

Now let’s get an aggressive NIL loving coach in there(I don’t think Saban and Alabama were throwing bags on the level of the schools out there)
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
27583 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 7:42 am to
The way people talk about Mike Shula you'd think he totally shite the bed in recruiting. His classes given what Alabama had been through prior to his taking over were not that bad.

Saban's was other worldly though.
Posted by Bama Bird
Member since Dec 2011
Member since Mar 2013
19039 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 7:49 am to
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The way people talk about Mike Shula you'd think he totally shite the bed in recruiting. His classes given what Alabama had been through prior to his taking over were not that bad.


In retrospect, Shula did a pretty good job at stopping the bleeding and keeping the program from completely disappearing (like Nebraska and Tennessee).

His firing had more to do with Auburn completely lapping us during the same time frame and the regression in 2006 than anything else
Posted by crimsonsaint
Member since Nov 2009
37250 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 7:56 am to
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2002 - 30
2003 - 49
2004 - 15
2005 - 18
2006 - 11


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Although the NCAA stated that the university fully cooperated with the enforcement staff, Alabama received probation from 2002 to 2006, a post-season ban in 2002 and 2003, and loss of 21 scholarships over 3 years.


I’m sure probation and a reduction of scholarships had no affect on recruiting, right?
Posted by rolltide32
Fort Payne, AL
Member since Nov 2013
6516 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 7:57 am to
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2002 - 30
2003 - 49


Probation

quote:

2004 - 15
2005 - 18
2006 - 11
2007 - 12


That's a more accurate depiction of Alabama's floor which puts them in the same ballpark as Auburn, Tennessee, Florida, etc.

Alabama isn't about to hire a Mike Shula, Dennis Franchione, Mike Dubose type though so I have complete cofidence they continue bringing in top 10 classes.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86519 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 8:44 am to
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People think Bama always recruited like they do now


who thinks that? Anyone that was old enough to be watching football in 2006 knows there was a monumental change in the program when he was hired.

Granted, I suppose that if you were like 13 in 2006 you'd be in your 30s now, so I guess anyone under 30 might not know. How many people post on here under the age of 30? Actually, it's probably a lot.

shite now I feel old. I shouldn't have started typing this out
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