re: A little LeBron James stat i saw on twitter

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name the players in the paint that would compete with prime shaq, Ewing, Malone, Barkley, Hakeem, David Robertson. And yes I'm saying lebron would not dominate against these guys down low. He would be very very good but to say he would just do whatever he wanted against all of those hall of fame bigs "is just silly".

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Are you insinuating he's posting those guys up? I don't get what you're saying, those guys wouldn't guard LeBron.

I think you're comparing low post players to a perimeter player who does work in the paint.

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Yea, but who had the most 24/7/8 games and 28/9/1 games? Tell dat!

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exactly, what an arbitrary stat....

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Are you insinuating he's posting those guys up? I don't get what you're saying, those guys wouldn't guard LeBron.

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im insinuatimg his drives to the basket woupdnt be near as aleffective if he was running into the diesel in his prime. In fact he woupd probabky have to settpe for alot more jumpers because driving to the basket would be out of the question in some cases where today it isnt

Maybe because the Bulls went out and got Kukoc (sp?) and Kerr to try to take MJ's spot, while keeping the core of the team together and Cleveland got rid of their entire starting line-up? That's what happened, right?

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im insinuatimg his drives to the basket woupdnt be near as aleffective if he was running into the diesel in his prime. In fact he woupd probabky have to settpe for alot more jumpers because driving to the basket would be out of the question in some cases where today it isnt

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Let me tell you how this would go...

LeBron stay on the perimeter with Kyrie, Korver, Love, and Frye spaced out as well. Shaq would have to come out of the paint or they'd rain down 3s on his team. Once he's out of the paint, they'd run ball screens until they got Shaq on LeBron, 18-20 feet from the basket. At that point, he'd simply beat him off the dribble.

You're right that LeBron isn't driving into Shaq effectively all night, but that's not the way they'd run the offense regardless.

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im insinuatimg his drives to the basket woupdnt be near as aleffective if he was running into the diesel in his prime. In fact he woupd probabky have to settpe for alot more jumpers because driving to the basket would be out of the question in some cases where today it isnt

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Maybe he wouldn't be as effective as today.

But I think what you're missing is that he'd still be dominant for that era. No one in that era would be as effective driving to the rim as LeBron(and MJ)

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To me they are 1A and 1B all time then everyone else. A legitimate case can be made for either in the A slot. Let's quit acting like one is far greater than the other and just be glad we are still getting to watch one right now.

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Yep.

Playoff winning %

LeBron 67.3%
Jordan 66.5%

Regular Season winning %

LeBron 67.0%
Jordan 65.9%

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GIVE ME LESS INFORMATION!!!!

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Information overload
You can't take raw advanced analytics data to use for your arguments

That info requires game by game context, which no sane person has time to go over each one, notate, & debate. It's about as useless as saying so & so is better than that guy because his plus/minus is better. If one star player has to stay on the court 38-40 min every night w/ a crap bench, of course his +/- will not be tops in the league.

Deeper teams will almost always favor the star players analytically, because the overall defense is better as well as overall efficiency on offense.

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a team full of HOFers??? Steve Kerr, Luc Longley, BJ Armstrong, John Paxon, Bill Cartwright, Ron Harper. Jordan had Pippen. Let's see Lebron had D Wade, Chris Bosh, Kyrie, Kevin Love, and Kyle Korver. Jordan didn't have to go join forces with anyone to win a championship either.

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How is this downvoted? It's the truth! When he got Rodman, it replaced Grant & only played with him for a couple of years. Pippen was the only HOF she had for the long haul.

He didn't have aging stars that could still play like Ray Allen, Battier (def star), etc. He got Deron Williams & Korver for nothing this year. Jordan didn't have that luxury. He elevated average players into maximizing their role that were never close to being stars.

He has always needed a stacked deck, while Jordan didn't. No one can deny that. Ron Harper was the closet he had to a guy like Ray Allen & he's not close to being a HOF'er

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Hey those teams that won 60 regular season but lost to MJ were sooooo much better!!!

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The Eastern conference teams he had to go thru were miles better than any Lebron's teams conquered. Who is the best team he's faced in the East? The '08 Celtics. No other team was on par with the 90s Pistons, Pacers or Knicks he routinely went thru.

Not to mention tough Cavaliers, Hawks & Magic teams, amongst a few others that weren't pushovers. No one is saying Lebron isn't one of the greats, but he has had paper mache rivals, & a lot of that was his doing with the roster jumping he did in the same conference.