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re: 92 Dream Team...Best Team Ever Assembled?
Posted on 3/8/24 at 8:45 am to Torbemsti80
Posted on 3/8/24 at 8:45 am to Torbemsti80
I don’t think it was.
96 was better. 2012 was the most athletic.
Malone, Stockton, Pippen, Barkley, and Robinson were on both and still in their prime.
So 92 had
MJ
Bird - back was dead at this point
Magic - retired after Olympics.
Laettner - not very good
Ewing - okay but but nearly as good as the 96 centers.
Mullin
Drexler
96 had
Shaq - was better than everyone but Jordan on the original dream team by 96
Olajuwon - same as Shaq and a lot better than Ewing
Payton - better player than Mullin or Drexler at this point.
Hill - pre injury was headed to superstar status
Miller - equal to Drexler
Hardaway - like Hill, pre injury he was awesome.
Richmond - I think this was the late sub in for Jordan. Still a lot better than Laettner.
92 all in their prime would have been the best, but at time of playing 96 was better.
96 was better. 2012 was the most athletic.
Malone, Stockton, Pippen, Barkley, and Robinson were on both and still in their prime.
So 92 had
MJ
Bird - back was dead at this point
Magic - retired after Olympics.
Laettner - not very good
Ewing - okay but but nearly as good as the 96 centers.
Mullin
Drexler
96 had
Shaq - was better than everyone but Jordan on the original dream team by 96
Olajuwon - same as Shaq and a lot better than Ewing
Payton - better player than Mullin or Drexler at this point.
Hill - pre injury was headed to superstar status
Miller - equal to Drexler
Hardaway - like Hill, pre injury he was awesome.
Richmond - I think this was the late sub in for Jordan. Still a lot better than Laettner.
92 all in their prime would have been the best, but at time of playing 96 was better.
This post was edited on 3/8/24 at 8:47 am
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Posted on 3/8/24 at 8:52 am to UnitedFruitCompany
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The one time they played against each other, Laettner absolutely worked shaq.
They played twice. Laettner had the better game in 91 at Cameron (24/11, got Shaq in foul trouble). Shaq had 15/10 (he averaged around 28/14 for the year). That was the game he got "worked" I guess.
The next year in BR, Shaq had 25/12/7 blocks, Laettner 22/10. It was the first game Duke played without Hurley, Grant Hill ran point Youtube highlights (pro LSU highlights, ha)
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Laettner gets shite on a lot but that guy was an absolute stud in college.
He was. And it was gonna be hard to leave the consensus Natl POY off the team if you could only take 1 college player.
Posted on 3/8/24 at 9:51 am to Tridentds
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Team on a mission. No acting like primadonnas. Just having fun on and off the court and destroying everybody in their path. A team of superstars but not a single one acting like a superstar. Egos left in the states.
A complete joy to watch every game.
You just described the USA team that competed in Beijing for the Olympics.
ETA: And actually the 2012 team was probably better than they were.
This post was edited on 3/8/24 at 9:54 am
Posted on 3/8/24 at 10:21 am to dcrews
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ETA: And actually the 2012 team was probably better than they were.
What that group did to Nigeria was jaw dropping. They won 156-73.
-49 first quarter points
-29/46 3pt shooting (63%)
-Carmelo's 37 set the single game USA record
Posted on 3/8/24 at 10:54 am to VADawg
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Carmelo's 37 set the single game USA record
Olympics Carmello was an absolute animal. Seems like he never missed
Posted on 3/8/24 at 11:01 am to Mike the Tiger 1999
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not only did they win their games in Barcelona by an average of ~45 pts, they didn’t call a single timeout. not one…even for garbage time subs lmao
I have never heard this about the timeouts.. That’s fricking awesome.
Posted on 3/8/24 at 11:09 am to Torbemsti80
The 94 World Championship team may have been better
What that team did was disgusting
It had
KJ
Nique
Shaq
Coleman
LJ
Thunder Dan
Dumars
Mark Price
Zo
It was just a dunk fest and they laughed at people while doing it.
To me, the Dream Team is more iconic, but that 94 FIBA team may have been actually better due to not having wasted spots (Bird, Laettner, Magic)
What that team did was disgusting
It had
KJ
Nique
Shaq
Coleman
LJ
Thunder Dan
Dumars
Mark Price
Zo
It was just a dunk fest and they laughed at people while doing it.
To me, the Dream Team is more iconic, but that 94 FIBA team may have been actually better due to not having wasted spots (Bird, Laettner, Magic)
Posted on 3/8/24 at 11:11 am to PhiTiger1764
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I have never heard this about the timeouts.. That’s fricking awesome.
The first time Team USA called a Timeout in international Play (using NBA players) was in Atlanta because they were shooting so bad that day. People blew a gasket when Wilkins did it.
I am not sure if Daley or Nellie even got up out of their seats in 92 or 94.
This post was edited on 3/8/24 at 11:16 am
Posted on 3/8/24 at 11:14 am to sms151t
My favorite team that Team USA ever sent was the Runts in 98. They were the CBA group that was just thrown together because of the strike and they battled their arse off, against teams and finished 3rd.
The worst team was the team that got housed in Indy with George Karl as the coach. That team had talent but did not even try it seemed they finished 6th in the tournament.
The worst team was the team that got housed in Indy with George Karl as the coach. That team had talent but did not even try it seemed they finished 6th in the tournament.
Posted on 3/8/24 at 11:23 am to StrongOffer
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2002 Brazil World Cup championship team
Not even close to the 1970 Brazil team that won in Mexico. It's the only team that sniffs the Dream Team.
Posted on 3/8/24 at 11:33 am to Torbemsti80
I was thinking recently how much older Bird looked in ‘92 versus the mid 80’s.
Barkley was my favorite player at time and was a big star in those Olympics. Elbowing the Angola dude in that 1st game was classic.
It would have been fun to see how unified Yugoslavia would have fared.
Barkley was my favorite player at time and was a big star in those Olympics. Elbowing the Angola dude in that 1st game was classic.
It would have been fun to see how unified Yugoslavia would have fared.
Posted on 3/8/24 at 11:44 am to Torbemsti80
Yes they are the best team ever. Truly great.
People read too much into the Shaq snub. Laettner was the obvious choice with Coach K on staff.
People read too much into the Shaq snub. Laettner was the obvious choice with Coach K on staff.
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The selection committee considered several college players including Harold Miner, Jimmy Jackson, and Alonzo Mourning in addition to Shaquille O'Neal and Christian Laettner.[27] O'Neal was the number-one pick in the 1992 NBA draft, but Laettner's Duke Blue Devils teams won consecutive National Championships in 1991 and 1992. Coached by Mike Krzyzewski, who also was a first-time assistant coach for the Olympic program, Laettner was the Naismith College Player of the Year and scored the game-winning basket as time expired in the 1992 NCAA Eastern Regional final. Although O'Neal was a two-time Consensus NCAA First Team All-American in 1991 and 1992, his team lost in the second round of the 1992 NCAA men's tournament. Laettner's college success and coach's endorsement ultimately secured his position on the team.[28]
Posted on 3/8/24 at 2:38 pm to Torbemsti80
Those Russian Olympic teams with the Lithuanians were pretty stout, and Yugoslavia was pretty badass before the country splintered
Posted on 3/8/24 at 3:10 pm to dcrews
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And actually the 2012 team was probably better than they were.
The centers were Tyson Chandler and Anthony Davis. They also had Deron Williams Andre Iguodala Kevin Love and James Harden. Excluding the token Laettner, none of them make the 1992 team. Hell, they don't make the team over Isiah Thomas, Dominque Wilkins, or Hakeem who were all left off.
They were taken to the wire twice in the Olympics. Yes, international competition had improved exponentially, but a team at the level of Spain and Lithuania (who went 2-3 in round play) would never have been in the game against the '92 team.
Posted on 3/8/24 at 3:34 pm to Torbemsti80
92 Team was overwhelming, and did exactly what they were supposed to do. In dramatic, legendary fashion.
However, from a landscape, grit, and competitive standpoint, I think I actually have even more respect/admiration for the 2008 Redeem Team. If any of y'all haven't checked out the documentary Netflix did on that squad, they put so much in perspective. The international game had caught up. The 92 team showed the world just how far ahead the USA was. They set the bar. Threw down the gauntlet. Which the rest of the world spent the next decade + 2 years picking up. By the time the '08 team was coalescing, the rest of the world wasn't just hoping to get an autograph with NBA royalty after the game--they wanted/felt justified in considering themselves favorites to punk USA basketball in front of the world. Again. Better talent had closed the gap, and better team chemistry circumstances made them tough outs. No disrespect to the 92 legends, but by the time 04/06/08 rolled around, USA couldn't simply show up and out-talent our opponents in inter play. You had to hoop. Go out, execute, and earn it. The 08 team did that against a whole heap of disadvantages. By necessity, a completely different mindset than 92.
And I loved that Redeem Team for it
However, from a landscape, grit, and competitive standpoint, I think I actually have even more respect/admiration for the 2008 Redeem Team. If any of y'all haven't checked out the documentary Netflix did on that squad, they put so much in perspective. The international game had caught up. The 92 team showed the world just how far ahead the USA was. They set the bar. Threw down the gauntlet. Which the rest of the world spent the next decade + 2 years picking up. By the time the '08 team was coalescing, the rest of the world wasn't just hoping to get an autograph with NBA royalty after the game--they wanted/felt justified in considering themselves favorites to punk USA basketball in front of the world. Again. Better talent had closed the gap, and better team chemistry circumstances made them tough outs. No disrespect to the 92 legends, but by the time 04/06/08 rolled around, USA couldn't simply show up and out-talent our opponents in inter play. You had to hoop. Go out, execute, and earn it. The 08 team did that against a whole heap of disadvantages. By necessity, a completely different mindset than 92.
And I loved that Redeem Team for it
Posted on 3/8/24 at 4:00 pm to VA LSU fan
quote:
Malone, Stockton, Pippen, Barkley, and Robinson were on both and still in their prime.
So 92 had
MJ
Bird - back was dead at this point
Magic - retired after Olympics.
Laettner - not very good
Ewing - okay but but nearly as good as the 96 centers.
Mullin
Drexler
96 had
Shaq - was better than everyone but Jordan on the original dream team by 96
Olajuwon - same as Shaq and a lot better than Ewing
Payton - better player than Mullin or Drexler at this point.
Hill - pre injury was headed to superstar status
Miller - equal to Drexler
Hardaway - like Hill, pre injury he was awesome.
Richmond - I think this was the late sub in for Jordan. Still a lot better than Laettner.
92 all in their prime would have been the best, but at time of playing 96 was better.
Good post. You are right the 92 team gets a lot of credit for having all time greats Bird and Magic. In reality, Bird was on his last legs and Magic was passing the torch to MJ. But even without those guys the 92 team had prime MJ and Drexler was a poor man's MJ. i think you are underrating him a bit. Shaq and Hakeem in their primes is much better than Ewing. Tough call.
Posted on 3/8/24 at 4:41 pm to Torbemsti80
I was told it was Golden State 2016-19
Posted on 3/8/24 at 5:03 pm to El Magnifico
Would be pretty sweet to see a quick little 4 team tourney between the 92, 96, 16, and 20 teams.
I only include 16 and 20 to see how bad they would get beat by 92 and 96 in the semi finals
Jerami Grant, Keldon Johnson, Javale McGee, Harrison Barnes up against the 92 and 96 rosters? Lmao what a joke
I only include 16 and 20 to see how bad they would get beat by 92 and 96 in the semi finals
Jerami Grant, Keldon Johnson, Javale McGee, Harrison Barnes up against the 92 and 96 rosters? Lmao what a joke
Posted on 3/8/24 at 5:17 pm to sms151t
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94 World Championship team
Came here to say this. Dream Team 2 was better than 1, but history forgot them because it wasn't the Olympics.
Posted on 3/8/24 at 5:31 pm to Socrates Johnson
Wrong… the original dream team in their prime beats any team they want by the score they want.
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