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re: 49ers rookie LB Chris Borland retires over safety issues

Posted on 3/17/15 at 8:34 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 3/17/15 at 8:34 am to
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If you retired as a lawyer to pursue something else nobody would judge you at all.

yeah well i chose the "pussy" route and avoided greatness a long time ago. of course nobody would care b/c i was never in a position of glory in the first place. i have no idea why i matter, as i'm not even criticizing his choice...i'm just saying that choice is a universal theme of human history

pretty much all of us posting on this message board have already made the choice to not sacrifice time in our lives for glory
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467197 posts
Posted on 3/17/15 at 8:36 am to
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Is he shaming them for leaving the game due to the high likelihood of brain damage?

publicly? no

privately? i'd imagine so, just based on his roster and method of building his roster (experienced vets and tough guys)
This post was edited on 3/17/15 at 8:36 am
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 3/17/15 at 8:36 am to
No, but he certainly has shamed players in the past that couldn't do their job or let their inner diva out
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108690 posts
Posted on 3/17/15 at 8:37 am to
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yeah well i chose the "pussy" route and avoided greatness a long time ago. of course nobody would care b/c i was never in a position of glory in the first place. i have no idea why i matter, as i'm not even criticizing his choice...i'm just saying that choice is a universal theme of human history

I'm not disagreeing with this. I'm only saying that people who judge an athlete for retiring for any reason, is an idiot. It is their own choice like every other profession
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
28039 posts
Posted on 3/17/15 at 8:37 am to
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No, but he certainly has shamed players in the past that couldn't do their job or let their inner diva out

Which is not what we're talking about.
Posted by PeteRose
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Posted on 3/17/15 at 8:43 am to
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All the people saying the risk is worth the reward have no clue what life is like with brain damage.


exactly. They've never been in that situation before and they're so quick to judge? It's like shaming a worker for not willing to work around asbestos. If you're not willing to do it, what gives you the right to judge that person?

Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92902 posts
Posted on 3/17/15 at 9:02 am to
The AZ Cardinals fans all thank him for taking such a brave stand! Hopefully more of the 49ers do the same and some Seahawks and Rams players do the same.
Posted by Buckeye Backer
Columbus, Ohio
Member since Aug 2009
9451 posts
Posted on 3/17/15 at 9:42 am to
Nobody made Borland play football. Its a gladiator sport. Its dangerous and its not for everybody, including Borland apparently. Football provided him a free education and money. Again, whats the alternative...end football in America? Football has been played for over 100 years, now all of a sudden players are afraid for their safety? I dont get it.
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
28039 posts
Posted on 3/17/15 at 9:46 am to
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I dont get it.
What's not to get?
Posted by Buckeye Backer
Columbus, Ohio
Member since Aug 2009
9451 posts
Posted on 3/17/15 at 9:49 am to
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What's not to get?


That he used football for a free education and money and now all of a sudden cares about his future? He knew the risk when he started playing. Im sick of all these guys acting like they dont know the risk of playing football. Millions of people have played the game and are fine. Just because you play football doesnt mean you are going to end up with brain damagae.
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
28039 posts
Posted on 3/17/15 at 9:51 am to
He decided that it is no longer worth the risk. I didn't think it was a hard concept to grasp.
Posted by bigpetedatiga
Alexandria, LA
Member since Aug 2009
8747 posts
Posted on 3/17/15 at 9:52 am to
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That he used football for a free education and money and now all of a sudden cares about his future? He knew the risk when he started playing. Im sick of all these guys acting like they dont know the risk of playing football. Millions of people have played the game and are fine. Just because you play football doesnt mean you are going to end up with brain damagae.



Wow!
Posted by Buckeye Backer
Columbus, Ohio
Member since Aug 2009
9451 posts
Posted on 3/17/15 at 9:53 am to
Well....bye!
Posted by brgfather129
Los Angeles, CA
Member since Jul 2009
17360 posts
Posted on 3/17/15 at 9:57 am to
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That he used football for a free education and money and now all of a sudden cares about his future? He knew the risk when he started playing. Im sick of all these guys acting like they dont know the risk of playing football


So, what's the alternative?...because the guy chose to play football and collect a paycheck he is required to ride out his career until he has acquired an acceptable amount of brain damage? For all we know he woke up the other morning, put on a flannel shirt and called himself Al Borland.
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
84359 posts
Posted on 3/17/15 at 10:06 am to
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That he used football for a free education and money and now all of a sudden cares about his future?


What? This statement doesn't make any sense. He played for over 4 years at Wisconsin. They gave him an education (I hope), he played football. And since when does playing football mean you have to stop caring about your future? Your post is very confusing.

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He knew the risk when he started playing. Im sick of all these guys acting like they dont know the risk of playing football. Millions of people have played the game and are fine. Just because you play football doesnt mean you are going to end up with brain damagae.


And he is now making a calculated decision based on the risks involved. The NFL is a hard-hitting league. A lot harder than college. The guys are bigger, stronger, faster. The collisions are much more severe. No one can make him play football. If it's not for him, more power to him. He obviously has options. Lots of players feel like they have no other options. That's kind of sad, if you think about it.
Posted by PeteRose
Hall of Fame
Member since Aug 2014
17877 posts
Posted on 3/17/15 at 10:43 am to
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Just because you play football doesnt mean you are going to end up with brain damagae.


With this logic, one can say:

-Just because you smoke cigarettes doesnt mean you are going to end up with lung cancer.
-Just because you shoot lots of heroin doesn't mean you are going to end up overdosing
-Just because you play russian roulette doesn't mean you are going to end up blowing off your head.

Yes there are risks in pro football. But there's a chance you can walk away OK. But if a man makes his decision to life his life as he chooses, why does that even bother you? Why are you hating on the guy?
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
162146 posts
Posted on 3/17/15 at 10:43 am to
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That he used football for a free education and money and now all of a sudden cares about his future? He knew the risk when he started playing. Im sick of all these guys acting like they dont know the risk of playing football. Millions of people have played the game and are fine. Just because you play football doesnt mean you are going to end up with brain damagae.


I'm failing to see what you're so upset about.

Borland is saying he knows the potential risks of playing long term and decided he doesn't want to chance it. He isn't blaming anyone or crying about his current state of health. I guess my follow up question to you is, are you fricking retarded?
Posted by lsutigers1992
Member since Mar 2006
25317 posts
Posted on 3/17/15 at 10:49 am to
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That he used football for a free education and money and now all of a sudden cares about his future? He knew the risk when he started playing. Im sick of all these guys acting like they dont know the risk of playing football. Millions of people have played the game and are fine. Just because you play football doesnt mean you are going to end up with brain damagae.


99 percent of the people who play college football don't go to the NFL. Are they also "parasites" because they used the university for their money?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108690 posts
Posted on 3/17/15 at 10:56 am to
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He decided that it is no longer worth the risk. I didn't think it was a hard concept to grasp.
Exactly. I am a CPA and make a great living, but the hours are awful. One day I may decide to get out of accounting because of this. Apparently that will be difficult for Buckeye to understand
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
28039 posts
Posted on 3/17/15 at 10:57 am to
Once you make a choice, you can never change your mind. That is the world Buckeye lives in.
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