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re: 49ers rookie LB Chris Borland retires over safety issues

Posted on 3/17/15 at 8:17 am to
Posted by PeteRose
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Posted on 3/17/15 at 8:17 am to
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In 20-25 years, all of the stadiums in the NFL will be turned into soccer stadiums for MLS. Unreal...the pussification of America continues


Yeah, you're such a "big man". Any man that goes around and degrades other men in order to appear to be a real man...that person is an insecure one.

Go ask Junior Seau's kids if they want their father back.
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 3/17/15 at 8:19 am to
And it makes it no less ridiculous.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/17/15 at 8:20 am to
Slow your analogy is horrible. This is an individual mans opinions about his own life. War effects millions and millions of others
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
28039 posts
Posted on 3/17/15 at 8:22 am to
I'm no scholar, but I think the choice is short glory-filled life or long obscure life.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476874 posts
Posted on 3/17/15 at 8:22 am to
it's not ridiculous. living a shorter life of luxury and glory v. a longer life of obscure normalcy

that is an everlasting internal human debate. it's part of our DNA and evolution as animals. in large part, the choice separates alphas from betas (the evolutionary signals certainly separate the groups' perceptions by others, namely females). this internal debate is a big part of being human
Posted by Feral
Member since Mar 2012
12774 posts
Posted on 3/17/15 at 8:23 am to
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Adam schefter is running the guy down on sports center right now. The NFL putting the heat on to try and shame guys that retire early



A guy who's bought and paid for by the NFL and working for a company bought and paid for by the NFL is shaming a player for retiring because of an issue that puts the NFL in a bad light? I'm shocked.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111478 posts
Posted on 3/17/15 at 8:23 am to
Society needs to realize athletes aren't their little play toy puppets. If someone on the money talk started a thread saying I am leaving the banking industry because "I don't like it", people wouldn't complain at all. They would say he needs to find a job he enjoys. But when a pro athlete changes his job for his own personal safety, people freak out. It is so creepy to me how people think these athletes owe them something. They don't. Period
This post was edited on 3/17/15 at 8:24 am
Posted by BRL79
Member since Mar 2014
3127 posts
Posted on 3/17/15 at 8:23 am to
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Sad. I feel bad for him and his family. On the other hand, frick the 49ers.


This
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
28039 posts
Posted on 3/17/15 at 8:23 am to
The ridiculousness lies in the fact that Shefter has never had to make the choice and will never have to make the choice. He's judging as an outsider with no personal knowledge.

It all comes back to blind machismo and how people they think would act in a similar situation.

It's a good debate, but "shaming" someone for making a different decision is ridiculous.
This post was edited on 3/17/15 at 8:28 am
Posted by hoopsgalore
Chicago
Member since Nov 2013
9106 posts
Posted on 3/17/15 at 8:25 am to
Chris Borland remains a fan favorite at Wisconsin and likely will for a long time. He gave everything he had for that program. Anyone who watched him play at Wisconsin and/or with San Francisco can attest to his toughness. It was unmatched. He has essentially been playing with one arm for the past couple seasons. One NFL team took him off their draft board because his shoulder never checked out.

My favorite play of his, to this day, was him stopping Carlos Hyde dead in his tracks twice: once at midfield and once at the goal line ( LINK)

Anyway, the guy was an absolute gamer on the field and the last thing that comes to mind when I think of Chris Borland is "pussy."
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476874 posts
Posted on 3/17/15 at 8:25 am to
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This is an individual mans opinions about his own life.

Achilles had a choice for his own life
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111478 posts
Posted on 3/17/15 at 8:26 am to
No the ridiculous part is people should not care at all. If Rory Mcilroy announced tommorrow he was quitting golf to become a lawyer people would freak the hell out and bash the shite out of him, which is crazy to me. They should get to choose what they do with their lives just as everyone else. They aren't our little play toys
Posted by Dennis ODell
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2010
375 posts
Posted on 3/17/15 at 8:27 am to
All the people saying the risk is worth the reward have no clue what life is like with brain damage.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476874 posts
Posted on 3/17/15 at 8:28 am to
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The ridiculous lies in the fact that Shefter has never had to make the choice and will never have to make the choice.

he's an NFL reporter and has inside connections to plenty of players. he understands NFL life and the pulse of NFL players better than any of us do

Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
28039 posts
Posted on 3/17/15 at 8:29 am to
He is still an outsider looking in. He will never have to make the choices that NFL players have to make.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
162921 posts
Posted on 3/17/15 at 8:29 am to
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Unreal...the pussification of America continues


so the players who play long term, we tell them tough shite they knew what they were getting into when they have major issues later in life, but when a guy makes a decision that those effects are not worth it, he's a giant pussy?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476874 posts
Posted on 3/17/15 at 8:30 am to
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They should get to choose what they do with their lives just as everyone else. They aren't our little play toys

the day they stop becoming our "play toys" is the day they stop getting paid even upper middle class money to play a game

just like with borland. nobody forced him to go to the NFL. that was his choice. he entered the public domain and has to live with the reactions of the public

he'll be forgotten in a news cycle
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111478 posts
Posted on 3/17/15 at 8:31 am to
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he's an NFL reporter and has inside connections to plenty of players. he understands NFL life and the pulse of NFL players better than any of us do
Who gives a shite. If you retired as a lawyer to pursue something else nobody would judge you at all. In fact, most would say "attaboy slow, way to go after something you like to do". This should be no different
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 3/17/15 at 8:32 am to
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He is still an outsider looking in. He will never have to make the choices that NFL players have to make.


Meh. Belichick didn't play in the NFL, but he can relate and handle players pretty easily.
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
28039 posts
Posted on 3/17/15 at 8:32 am to
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Meh. Belichick didn't play in the NFL, but he can relate and handle players pretty easily.

Is he shaming them for leaving the game due to the high likelihood of brain damage?

ETA: We're talking about a reporter shaming a linebacker for leaving the NFL due to concerns about brain injury. I shouldn't have to explain why that's ridiculous.
This post was edited on 3/17/15 at 8:36 am
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