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Posted on 2/25/24 at 7:59 pm to
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
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Posted on 2/25/24 at 7:59 pm to
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Wow, they need to do to Trucks and Jr Cup what they did to Cup cars. Amazing to have basically 2dud races with only high-line and go to this with racing and passing every lap.

Not bad for a "ruined" track, eh?

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And how did Chase finish 14th?

The crew did a great job of fixing the splitter after the first wreck and he made great saves in the 2nd and 3rd spins to not incue any more damage. His finish was due to attrition obviously but also in his ability to save the car in those incidents and make the most of a crappy situation. I have been hard on Gustafson of late but he deserves kudos for getting that car fixed after the 1st wreck and into the top-10 before the 2nd incident.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 2/25/24 at 8:16 pm to
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Tonight was closer.


Well, duh. But not based on the technology of the time. The point is, it's not like we haven't seen this before.
Posted by SPEEDY
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Posted on 2/25/24 at 8:35 pm to


Didn’t even make the list of top sports headlines today on ESPN
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
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Posted on 2/25/24 at 8:38 pm to
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This reworked track is better than anything the old track produced. But SBD in essence said I was an idiot for suggesting the old AMS did not produce compelling races.

And frick HMS. I suppose fat Rick will step in and fight Chase’s battles by calling out Ross again.


I respect your opinion even if it’s not mine. Atlanta had some great races back in the day, Bill Elliott lost a title here by not staying out an extra lap to secure most laps lead points. This new racing is only tight due to increased banking and restrictor plate. The junior races were horrible but today was great. I still hate plates as it only leads to wrecks. Imagine the team costs after first 2 races.

I used to hate Hendrick and now I have no opinion of him. He broke laws and paid the price.

I do like Chase because I learned of him following his dad. He worked for what he got and as a parent we all want our kids to do well in life it’s even better when they do what we did. As seen by Dale Jr, the pressures are so much higher when your dad was famous. Chase tries to drive clean and over the years has learned others don’t. He still isn’t as aggressive as I think he should be but some moves these first 2 races show me some change in that area. As we get to non plate races I think we’ll see him ramp up aggression. So its a mixed bag he drives for HMS but its a big team and he’d have been dumb not to have taken that opportunity.

Follow Nascar long enough and you’ll hate every driver at some point. Most wear off over time some don’t. Thats kinda what the sport is all about, fans having a driver and talking about how other drivers wronged them.

But I respect your honesty and it’s fine to hate drivers or team owners. I’ve never much liked Gibbs but like Truex and think Bell is a good driver. Hate his punk grandson though. I hate drivers who have ownership in other teams, and can’t believe Gibbs puts up with it. If I was an owner your loyalty better be my team. Wanna own a team then bye.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
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Posted on 2/25/24 at 8:46 pm to
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I still hate plates as it only leads to wrecks.



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I do like Chase

Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 2/25/24 at 8:57 pm to
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I do like Chase because I learned of him following his dad. He worked for what he got and as a parent we all want our kids to do well in life it’s even better when they do what we did. As seen by Dale Jr, the pressures are so much higher when your dad was famous. Chase tries to drive clean and over the years has learned others don’t. He still isn’t as aggressive as I think he should be but some moves these first 2 races show me some change in that area. As we get to non plate races I think we’ll see him ramp up aggression.

I liked what he said in the pre-race today about flushing out the stuff that doesn't matter and focusing on the stuff that does. That's maturity and plays into your point above.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 2/25/24 at 8:58 pm to
That's ESPN for ya.
Posted by A12 Oxcart
On the float out in the Belt
Member since Dec 2022
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Posted on 2/25/24 at 8:59 pm to
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Nobody here remembers Daytona 1959?


Well, Joe Weatherly in the #48 was a lap down so your comparison falls short.
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
29960 posts
Posted on 2/25/24 at 9:09 pm to
Here’s some history for those newer fans. Has an Atlanta tie in and involves Bill Elliott too. Pit road rules today are because of these incidents.

Near the end of the 1987 NASCAR Cup Series season on the road course at Riverside, Bill Elliott’s crew was in the middle of a pit stop when Michael Waltrip and Jim Robinson made contact on pit road. Waltrip’s car slid into Elliott’s car, knocking it off the jack and injuring three pit crew members.

Chuck Hill suffered massive injuries after the car came down on him. He would spend weeks recovering in a California hospital. With Hill out of commission, the team held a tryout at the shop to find a new right rear tire changer for the 1988 season.

Out of numerous candidates, a cowboy boots-wearing Mike Rich won the job.

During the 1988 season, Mike Rich was the right rear tire changer for a Bill Elliott team that won six times and, more impressively, captured the season series championship. In 1989, Elliott endured injuries early in the season but still managed to finish sixth in the points.

In 1990, the team had 12 top-five finishes, but victory remained elusive as it won its first and only race of the year at Dover in September. Several weeks later at the Cup Series season finale in Atlanta, Bill Elliott appeared to have the best car of the day, leading 94 of the 328 laps of the Atlanta Journal 500.

With just over 30 laps remaining, the caution flag came out. In the front of the pack, Bill Elliott darted down pit road, the television cameras trained on him as he pitted. What happened next, the cameras captured, and the national television audience at home watched in horror.

Mike Rich and the rest of Elliott’s pit crew went to work on the lead car. The second-place car of Ricky Rudd approached from behind headed toward its stall, located directly in front of Elliott’s. As Rudd attempted to brake, the rear wheels of his Chevrolet locked up, sending his car spinning out of control straight toward Elliott’s car.

Tommy Cole, Bill Elliott’s jack man, was hit and sent flying. He suffered a broken arm and spent the night in the hospital. Mike Rich, however, never had a chance. He was pinned between the two cars and suffered head and chest injuries. He was airlifted to a nearby hospital and underwent surgery but died hours later.

Rich’s death was a wake-up call to NASCAR, which had experienced a similar pit road fatality at Atlanta 11 years earlier. The racing organization implemented significant changes the following year. One of the most important was the introduction of a pit road speed limit. Interestingly, all the other motorsports, including F1 and IndyCar, followed suit.

Mike Rich got his job because of an accident on pit road. He lost his life several years later in another accident at age 32.

Some may remember Bill became a big proponent of safety and butted heads with Nascar over it.

Posted by Fus0623
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 2/25/24 at 9:43 pm to
Just saw the finish..what an amazing race! Congrats to our amigo Suarez. Atlanta is my new favorite track
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
34532 posts
Posted on 2/25/24 at 10:10 pm to
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Near the end of the 1987 NASCAR Cup Series season on the road course at Riverside, Bill Elliott’s crew was in the middle of a pit stop when Michael Waltrip and Jim Robinson made contact on pit road. Waltrip’s car slid into Elliott’s car, knocking it off the jack and injuring three pit crew members.


I watched it happen live. It was a sad day for Nascar...
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
29960 posts
Posted on 2/25/24 at 10:14 pm to
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I watched it happen live. It was a sad day for Nascar...


No one was killed in that incident. It was the one a few years later. I watched both of them.
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
29960 posts
Posted on 2/25/24 at 10:16 pm to
Cup points after Atlanta

Posted by AlonsoWDC
Memphis, where it ain't Ten-a-Key
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 2/25/24 at 10:44 pm to
Paul Menard won the season opener TransAm Series race at Sebring today.
Posted by Fus0623
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2015
91762 posts
Posted on 2/25/24 at 11:47 pm to
How do yall think Harvick is doing 2 races in?
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 5:54 am to
I like the info that he is giving out. He still needs to work on his pacing/cadence some and that'll come w/experience, but so far so good IMO
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
34532 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 8:05 am to
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Well, Joe Weatherly in the #48 was a lap down so your comparison falls short.


Funny, my wife says the same thing..
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
17745 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 8:25 am to
That was my first ever race weekend at AMS and it was quite an experience, to say the least.

I was in section 149 row 17, just to the right of the start/finish line, and I thought for sure Blaney had held on. When 99 flashed at the top of the leaderboard though, pretty much everyone started cheering. It was such a cool moment, and just a fantastic weekend overall.
Posted by MikeHoncho47
Member since Aug 2016
1908 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 8:29 am to
That was a massive win for Suarez. With Zane Smith and SVG under contract with Trackhouse, he needed to prove he belonged. He drives better when he's not pressing. I think you may get 2-3 wins out of him this year.
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
51716 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 8:49 am to
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Nobody here remembers Daytona 1959?

It appears that the official list of closest finishes only lists those that could be verified by electronic timing and scoring.
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