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re: 2024 Formula 1 season Thread
Posted on 6/30/24 at 9:28 pm to s14suspense
Posted on 6/30/24 at 9:28 pm to s14suspense
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Main commentator was not very good. Don’t know if it was his first time or what but he screwed up a few times early.
He is the main BBC radio commentator been doing this a while. His audio shows up on Netflix.
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Posted on 6/30/24 at 11:57 pm to nola tiger lsu
Absolutely insane race. Can't wait for RPM's take on this shitshow.
The strategical difference between Haas this year and under Guenther is night and day. He really was the problem
I don't think you can really assign majority blame either way between Lando and Max. The way they were both driving, that contact was inevitable. Lando literally did a Forza online multiplayer lobby dive up the inside at one point, but Max was also being really cheeky in the braking zones and through the corners. The way I see it, they both fricked around and found out.
The strategical difference between Haas this year and under Guenther is night and day. He really was the problem
I don't think you can really assign majority blame either way between Lando and Max. The way they were both driving, that contact was inevitable. Lando literally did a Forza online multiplayer lobby dive up the inside at one point, but Max was also being really cheeky in the braking zones and through the corners. The way I see it, they both fricked around and found out.
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Posted on 7/1/24 at 5:45 am to unostang
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Saw this and thought it was interesting. Take it for what it's worth but same situation with different outcomes. (Same corner)
The main difference being Sainz isn’t a psychopath.
Posted on 7/1/24 at 7:23 am to nola tiger lsu
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He is the main BBC radio commentator been doing this a while. His audio shows up on Netfl
That makes sense. He was saying weird things like Russel in the Red Bull and Fernando in the Mercedes type shite that was wrong because he was nervous I guess and wasn’t necessary on TV vs the radio it might help
Posted on 7/1/24 at 9:23 am to Drewbie
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I don't think you can really assign majority blame either way between Lando and Max. The way they were both driving, that contact was inevitable. Lando literally did a Forza online multiplayer lobby dive up the inside at one point, but Max was also being really cheeky in the braking zones and through the corners. The way I see it, they both fricked around and found out.
I agree. I really like Lando, but he was doing some silly aggressive attacks and Max doing some silly defensive moves. They are both at fault IMO. And I'm a Lando fan.
Posted on 7/1/24 at 10:26 am to sorantable
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The main difference being Max moved farther left to avoid contact with Sainz.
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Posted on 7/1/24 at 10:44 am to NfamousPanda
Personally felt like both were to blame. Prior to the accident, Lando was trying some I'll advised moves and getting frustrated with Max but they were moves that weren't going to work anyway. Up until that point I didn't really put much blame on Max at all and it was good defensive driving imo, Lando was just boiling over. Then the breaking point obviously Max was in the wrong but I still think Lando overreacted. If Lando would have got back in the race instead of crashing them both, he could have still beaten Max because Max was going to get a 10 second penalty at that point. Now he wouldn't have won the race because George was gone by then but he could have still scored 4th(?) place points probably. Not saying he's be happy with that but he let his emotions get the best of himself.
I think it was pretty big douche moves on both of their parts.
I think it was pretty big douche moves on both of their parts.
Posted on 7/1/24 at 10:46 am to NfamousPanda
Huge Max fan, but i respect Lando for what he did. Max will try to bully you and you literally have to crash into him to stop him from doing it.
Like I'd tell Zac, look yea we lost points, but I'm gonna be racing this fricker all the time for at least a season and a half and I can't let him do this shite.
Like I'd tell Zac, look yea we lost points, but I'm gonna be racing this fricker all the time for at least a season and a half and I can't let him do this shite.
This post was edited on 7/1/24 at 10:47 am
Posted on 7/1/24 at 10:49 am to BuckyCheese
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The main difference being Max moved farther left to avoid contact with Sainz.
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Are you trying to say that Sainz was worse? Sainz also made a natural turn and didn't try and wreck Max. Max literally isn't even turning and makes both of them go off the track. Posted on 7/1/24 at 10:59 am to iwyLSUiwy
quote:Ayrton Senna
Max literally isn't even turning and makes both of them go off the track.
Posted on 7/1/24 at 11:13 am to North Dallas Tiger
Can't have nice things next year. Thanks F1 LINK
Means car counts will be down for the n24 and spa24.
Thanks F1. It really takes 4 weeks to get ready for an F1 event. Get outta here. Doesn't take DIS a month to get ready for the 500 after the Rolex.
Means car counts will be down for the n24 and spa24.
Thanks F1. It really takes 4 weeks to get ready for an F1 event. Get outta here. Doesn't take DIS a month to get ready for the 500 after the Rolex.
Posted on 7/1/24 at 11:33 am to WeareLATech
Martin has chimed in and called out exactly what I said about the radio messages after...
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In commentary, and in these columns, I've waxed lyrical about Max's talent, and I stand by that, he's one of the very best I've ever witnessed in 40 years. I've also said that he's calmed down, matured, and plays more the percentage game with three championships in his pocket. But that appears to have been a thin veneer as this race was very much Max 1.0, with his default driving tactics and denials resurfacing.
I'm making no excuses for him, but I do wonder if the ridiculous spat between his father Jos and team boss Christian Horner has finally surfaced on track for him.
Anthony Davidson gave his verdict on whether Verstappen or Norris was at fault for the crash
And to hear the Red Bull team on the radio after the race telling him it was all Norris's fault was a difficult listen, it damages their credibility all round.
It was clear Norris would get a five-second penalty for track limits and the whole thing was totally unnecessary for Red Bull. It must also be said that Lando's race craft was rather gung-ho. He'll need more finesse, patience, and cunning than that if he wants to start beating Max regularly to win a championship.
Posted on 7/1/24 at 11:36 am to iwyLSUiwy
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Max literally isn't even turning and makes both of them go off the track.
Yeah, that flat tire had nothing to do with Max not making the corner.
If you want to see someone "not try to make the corner" watch a lap or two earlier when Norris sent it and went straight off the track. While Max never touched him.
Norris has terrible racecraft around Max. He's intimidated big time. And Max knows it.
*Watch that Max/Sainz video again and look how far left Max was. Then look at Norris in the same situation. If Norris keeps his head he makes the exact same move Verstappen did on Sainz and takes the lead. Instead he puffs up and holds his ground taking them both out. Lousy racecraft.
This post was edited on 7/1/24 at 11:40 am
Posted on 7/1/24 at 12:23 pm to BuckyCheese
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Watch that Max/Sainz video again and look how far left Max was. Then look at Norris in the same situation. If Norris keeps his head he makes the exact same move Verstappen did on Sainz and takes the lead. Instead he puffs up and holds his ground taking them both out. Lousy racecraft.
This much is true. Lando didn’t cause the accident, but he has to be smarter.
Posted on 7/1/24 at 12:33 pm to sorantable
Max's boldness is why he is the best right now. He races at 100% and believes it is his track.
I think Lando will just have to match it until Max accepts it or they wreck ever race. But don't give in to Max
I think Lando will just have to match it until Max accepts it or they wreck ever race. But don't give in to Max
Posted on 7/1/24 at 1:30 pm to Split2874
You can tell Lando is pushing and making somewhat immature choices when fighting Max. This is his first real taste of fighting for a championship. He's honestly racing like Max 1.0 used to. If he's gonna beat Max at his own game, then he's gonna have to be smarter with how he attacks.
Posted on 7/1/24 at 2:45 pm to BuckyCheese
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If Norris keeps his head he makes the exact same move Verstappen did on Sainz and takes the lead. Instead he puffs up and holds his ground taking them both out. Lousy racecraft.
I tend to agree. Fault lies with Max on the contact, but Norris could have avoided it. Counter argument is Norris shouldn't have to avoid it. Another counter argument is that Max has done the same multiple times.
The thing about Max is that he doesn't care if he crashes. We've seen this for almost a decade now. He knows he's good and he has big balls, so he will flex and make the other person submit or crash.
Posted on 7/1/24 at 2:49 pm to BottomlandBrew
I'm still laughing about the fact Max ran most of a lap on three tires, made an extra pitstop, and still finished in front of Perez.
Posted on 7/1/24 at 3:04 pm to barry
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Huge Max fan, but i respect Lando for what he did. Max will try to bully you and you literally have to crash into him to stop him from doing it.
Yup, this is what the top drivers do, and if you want to join that group (when your car gives you that opportunity), you have to push back until they respect your game.
I think this is why Albon left such a bad impression when he was at Red Bull. He was still so young and wide-eyed, and when Hamilton pushed him around, instead of pushing back he got whiny. He didn't come into F1 already with a sense of entitlement. He was a humble guy who was in over his head. His record at Red Bull wasn't terrible for a young guy, he just emanated wussiness and that was fatal to his Red Bull career. The next year Horner raved about his simulator work and helped him get hired by Williams. There was no way he could work his way back to a Red Bull seat, he'd have to earn his way back by proving himself somewhere else.
Posted on 7/1/24 at 10:45 pm to BuckyCheese
quote:don't forget the 10 second time penalty and still Perez was 17 seconds behind
I'm still laughing about the fact Max ran most of a lap on three tires, made an extra pitstop, and still finished in front of Perez.
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