re: 2023 Formula 1 season Thread

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His inability to even share blame for anything is offputting, he comes off like a spoiled child lately

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From early in his career, I noticed Sergio Pérez was like that, super stubborn and unwilling to take or share blame. That's why I never really liked him. Must be the latin temperament.

Yep

As for Sainz comments,I find it funny when the only driver who flat spots his tires at the first corner starts pointing fingers.
He looked like the usual douche trying to hit the exit ramp from 3 lanes wide .

10 mins after the first corner I decided to change out my coils and spark plugs Sunday morning.

If I'm Piastri, I'm hitting the Ferrari rather than the inside wall, which isn't moving. He hits the red car, it's 50/50 he survives.

Easy mistake. Period.

Agreed, great post.

Not even pointing out the fact that Sainz came in out of control by locking up, I think this pic you posted is or should be the argument ender. Both drivers are starting to make their turn, and Sainz is nowhere near clear of Piastri to the point where you'd call that his corner.

As being a bit newer to F1, I'm interested for the opinions on the other side that think that corner was Sainz' corner based on this pic below.

I'm willing to chalk it up as a racing inchident and move on but Sainz came from the left side of the track after trying to go around Lewis on the outside, locking up which is the only reason he's ahead of Piastri at the corner, and diving to the inside. I think he just didn't see Piastri which is why he came out claiming it was Piatri's fault, he was under the impression that Oscar just divebombed up the inside, when he was always on the inside. Sainz is the one who adjusted his line to the corner at last second. Sainz fault.

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That's actually the picture that makes me lean to Sainz not being at fault. LeClerc, Max, Lewis, and Sainz are all clearly making the turn already. Piastri is still on almost a straight line and his front tires are just at Sainz's rears.

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I see what you're saying but I think it's clear that Piastri isn't straight and has at least started his turn.

Sainz isn't clear of him and also only got to that spot in an out of control manner with locking up. I think Piastri has enough angle there that it wasn't Sainz' corner clearly, as Piastri had enough of it to have a right to be there.

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I kind of agree with Brundle who basically said Piatri could have slowed down and probably avoided the crash but it wasn't like he just dove in there like a madman. Just unfortunate and something that happens there.

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Agree with this, and it should just be a racing incident overall, but in the debate of assigning blame if you had to, I think that's on Sainz.

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Here's a similar incident, not at the start, involving Sainz and Stroll. Sainz has his nose inside of Stroll but that's not enough. Sainz was given a 3 grid penalty after the race.

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I don't think that's a similar incident at all. In that one, Sainz came from way behind at the last second.

In the one from last weekend, it was also Sainz who came from behind Piastri. Piastri didn't sneak up from behind at the very last second when Sainz had already started his turn like in the one you linked. Piastri is starting his turn as Sainz is passing him, so very plausible he never saw Sainz given how late Sainz passed him.

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He doesn't have enough of his car along side Sainz to claim the corner.

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As I understand the rule, he does.

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Sainz can't see Piastri

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I don't follow? Sainz came from behind Piastri, so he could have seen PIastri rather easily. On the other hand, if Piastri is looking ahead to the turn, he wouldn't have seen Sainz who came in out of control and locking up at the very last second and was passing Piastri but not actually passed Piastri after Piastri already started his turn.

Here's a fun video to bide the time. The best part was seeing Lando on podiums where he is much smaller (i.e., younger) than the other guys.


Young Lando Norris' INCREDIBLE Driving Style
www.youtube.com/watch?v=sX87-de3A_g

I can't remember if we talked about this. In Las Vegas, F1 wants businesses along the F1 track to pay licensing fees or risk getting their view blocked by barriers.

www.reviewjournal.com/sports/motor-sports/formula-1/f1-tells-strip-properties-to-pay-up-for-las-vegas-grand-prix-views-2877157/

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12329941/Las-Vegas-club-owners-decry-F1s-pit-iful-block-view-highly-anticipated-race-unless-fork-whopping-fees-ahead-Novembers-contest.html

www.thedrive.com/news/f1-wants-las-vegas-venues-to-pay-millions-or-it-will-block-their-view-of-the-race-report

Where dem silly season rumors at?