re: 2022 Formula 1 Season Thread

Truth. Vegas at night is the only way to do it.

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So Australia GP times.

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This is another reason that a projected start time of 10:00 pm PST seems likely, because the Aussie GP has been on the calendar for decades, so this is a familiar worldwide start time.

Epic news but this part makes no sense

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Porsche would partner with Red Bull, while Audi would partner with McLaren.

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Both of these automakers are owned by the same parent, not sure I understand them not starting their own team with the impact it would have on their own bottom line. RB already developed an engine with Honda that is showing a lot of promise. Not sure what Porsche would provide outside of engineering. Wonder what McLarens partnership with Audi will do to its Mercedes power train.

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These engine, sorry PU, deals are for the 2026 season. Would have no impact on the current units as they are frozen until the end of the 2025 season.

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Right - my understanding is that Red Bull was OK handling "their own" engines while they are frozen but would need to move to something else in 2026.

The Audi-McLaren partnership sounds more like a merger than an engine supplier.

Don't worry - it'll all fall apart tomorrow.

If I were running F1, I'd create a small, spec 60's style car (simple tech, no downforce, awesome sound), and have a spec Monaco GP for WDC points. It would be billed as a pure driver's race with no excuses. This odd one-off type of race is not unprecedented. For 10 years the Indy 500 counted for WDC points, but only a few F1 drivers ever did it.

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Supposedly there is a bit of a rivalry between the heads of Audi and Porsche. And they have competed in the same class before and likely do currently.

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running a GT3 program and competing in F1 ain't even in the same ballpark. He'll it ain't even in the same sport

Agree. If they had a slower car then Monaco would be better but unless someone crashes its a follow the leader parade. Cars have advanced so much that this should be reclassified as a 1.5 hour parade instead.

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running a GT3 program and competing in F1 ain't even in the same ballpark. He'll it ain't even in the same sport

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While I'm surprised they would do it, Porsche and Audi have competed against each other in expensive, high-tech series before.

Rivalry sure but when you look at the price tag of a single team, lets say $300m x 2 from the same parent entity doesn't seem like the best business move, considering majority of their engineering (Porsche & Audi specifically) and manufacturing overlaps.

Re: they use similar platforms for a majority of their best sellers so why, from a business perspective, would they enter the most expensive motor sport as two separate constructors and if its a pissing contest, as a shareholder I'd be pissed.

I just find it kind of stupid considering they could have 4 wicked cars on the grid and immediately be on the tails of front runners. I know F1 makes zero logical sense and its likely VOW knows for every dollar they invest it equates to 2-3x ROI if not greater, more so if they build a contender.

Perspective 2019 budgets ($m):
Merc 484
Rari 463
RB 445
woking 269
viva resistance 272
Team Stroll 188
Toro 138
Alfa 132
Williams 141
HAAS 173

Note: Not a pissed $VOW shareholder and I can get behind a F1 911 spec.

You need to look at it as advertising, as that is what it is in the end.

An advertising budget that just happens to include developing an F1 power unit.

Porsche advertises, Audi advertises, and frankly they don't have huge overlap in customers.