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re: 2019 Kentucky Derby
Posted on 5/6/19 at 3:32 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Posted on 5/6/19 at 3:32 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
I used to live within walking distance of track, so I gambled a lot. But that was 20 years ago and I'll be honest that I barely follow horse racing these days, if at all. I thought it was a good call, for the record, but I'm not gonna claim a ton of expertise. But there's on thing I truly agree with:
The Derby has allowed the field to get out of control and there's too many horses that, frankly, have no business in the field just hoping to get lucky. It creates a dishonest race in which the best horse rarely wins due to the rough ride. They really should be looking at a reform to get the field down to a manageable number.
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One thing to fix the Derby is to no longer allow 20 horses.
The Derby has allowed the field to get out of control and there's too many horses that, frankly, have no business in the field just hoping to get lucky. It creates a dishonest race in which the best horse rarely wins due to the rough ride. They really should be looking at a reform to get the field down to a manageable number.
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 3:49 pm to Clyde Tipton
When Secretariat won the Kentucky Derby, he raced against 12 horses and it was considered a large field back then.
When he won the Preakness he raced against 5 horses.
When he won the Belmont he raced against 5 horses.
Who knows if Secretariat's brilliance would have been bottled up if he was forced into a bad trip because the race had become a Calvary charge.
You shouldn't have a Derby where you need an extended gate. Where the starting line is rail to rail.
This is what the Derby is looking like the past 20 years.
You would lessen the prospect of fouls and disaster if you had a more manageable field.
When he won the Preakness he raced against 5 horses.
When he won the Belmont he raced against 5 horses.
Who knows if Secretariat's brilliance would have been bottled up if he was forced into a bad trip because the race had become a Calvary charge.
You shouldn't have a Derby where you need an extended gate. Where the starting line is rail to rail.
This is what the Derby is looking like the past 20 years.
You would lessen the prospect of fouls and disaster if you had a more manageable field.
This post was edited on 5/6/19 at 3:50 pm
Posted on 5/6/19 at 4:01 pm to Aspercel
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People who only watch racing 1 day a year so have no clue that a dq can and often does exist?
I've had several discussions with so called race fans about this weekend. They act like they've been a racing fan forever but then they all say, in one way or another, that these DQs have only started in the recent years once replays became popular. Really? And you say you're an old racing fan?
For the record, my was not involved so that does not sway my opinion. I believe the right call was made. The whole 20+ minutes I was swearing that there was no way the stewards would have the gonads to do it though. When the call was made, my jaw literally dropped.
Posted on 5/6/19 at 4:13 pm to Boudreaux35
I also said it was a clear foul but there’s no way they have the balls to do it. But they did.
Posted on 5/6/19 at 8:26 pm to Extremely Arrogant
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Do you really think you know more about horse racing than the President of the United States?
My dog knows more about horse racing than the POTUS.
Posted on 5/6/19 at 8:32 pm to Aspercel
80's changed polo and bettin ponies forever.
Before the agents took over looking for quick scores on Arab buyers it was a business but a gentlemens business. Greed indeed eventually kills all it corrupts.
Before the agents took over looking for quick scores on Arab buyers it was a business but a gentlemens business. Greed indeed eventually kills all it corrupts.
Posted on 5/7/19 at 11:10 am to Cheese Grits
derby winner out of preakness
mott says the horse is sick
mott says the horse is sick
Posted on 5/7/19 at 11:27 am to SeeeeK
Well shite.
Still a pretty good field assembling.
Ugh. Nevermind. Code of honor not going. I liked his chances a lot.
Still a pretty good field assembling.
Ugh. Nevermind. Code of honor not going. I liked his chances a lot.
This post was edited on 5/7/19 at 11:31 am
Posted on 5/7/19 at 12:31 pm to SeeeeK
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derby winner out of preakness
mott says the horse is sick
Overwhelming sense of guilt.
Posted on 5/7/19 at 12:53 pm to Jwho77
Or the fact that horses today seem to need 4 weeks to come out of any race 
But if it makes you feel better to think guilt you just go ahead. It’s cute.
But if it makes you feel better to think guilt you just go ahead. It’s cute.
Posted on 5/7/19 at 1:43 pm to Aspercel
It was only a joke, not an opinion. 
Posted on 5/7/19 at 2:36 pm to Jwho77
Sorry.
If you can’t tell I’m getting very over the whole thing. There are people who actually think that.
Phone has been buzzing since Saturday
If you can’t tell I’m getting very over the whole thing. There are people who actually think that.
Phone has been buzzing since Saturday
Posted on 5/7/19 at 3:48 pm to Baloo
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The Derby has allowed the field to get out of control and there's too many horses that, frankly, have no business in the field just hoping to get lucky. It creates a dishonest race in which the best horse rarely wins due to the rough ride. They really should be looking at a reform to get the field down to a manageable number.
14 would probably be perfect.
Posted on 5/7/19 at 7:57 pm to Baloo
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The Derby has allowed the field to get out of control and there's too many horses ... It creates a dishonest race in which the best horse rarely wins due to the rough ride.
The best horse actually wins a lot. The favorite has won the last several years in a row. Would have happened again but for the DQ.
Posted on 5/7/19 at 8:01 pm to Twenty 49
The favorite didn’t run though
Posted on 5/7/19 at 10:40 pm to BluegrassBelle
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The Derby has allowed the field to get out of control and there's too many horses that, frankly, have no business in the field just hoping to get lucky. It creates a dishonest race in which the best horse rarely wins due to the rough ride. They really should be looking at a reform to get the field down to a manageable number.
How is it dishonest? The best horse led wire to wire in this derby. And as pointed out above, the favorite has won most times. How is that dishonest?
Posted on 5/8/19 at 3:36 am to Monkeyboy
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Nobody was beating Maximum Security yesterday.
War of Will looked to run his same race as he did in the LeCompte and Risen Star.
How can you say that?
Hell! I’ll let Tyler tell you
“At that point, we had just started to make our initial run and I had plenty of horse.”
This post was edited on 5/8/19 at 5:59 am
Posted on 5/8/19 at 8:18 pm to BluegrassBelle
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14 would probably be perfect.
I side with Aspy on the single gate
I do think two other things would help
#1 No "buy ins" just to get box on Derby Day
#2 Limit trainers to 1 or 2 horses
(if you have 4 horses you can use them to advantage a single challenger)
Think of the Tour de France if it helps better understand using 4 to beat 1
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