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re: 1995 Nebraska’s offensive line ran 855 snaps that season…

Posted on 1/8/22 at 8:23 am to
Posted by RollTide1987
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Posted on 1/8/22 at 8:23 am to
You judge a team not by how they would do in intervening years, but how they did against their peers when they played. The 1995 Nebraska Cornhuskers were far and away the best team that played that year - and it wasn't even close. Florida had been just as dominant in the regular season as Nebraska had and they were run out of the stadium by the Cornhuskers to the tune of 62-24. Nebraska was on the goal line at the end of the game taking a knee.
This post was edited on 1/8/22 at 8:25 am
Posted by SpartyGator
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Posted on 1/8/22 at 8:26 am to
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You judge a team not by how they would do in intervening years, but how they did against their peers when they played. The 1995 Nebraska Cornhuskers were far and away the best team that played that year - and it wasn't even close. Florida had been just as dominant in the regular season as Nebraska had and they were run out of the stadium by the Cornhuskers to the tune of 62-24. Nebraska was on the goal line at the end of the game taking a knee.


The 95 Gator Unit was probably one of Spurrier's most explosive teams (and likely better than their title team in 96). Nebraska ran them out of Tempe so bad. They were incredibly dominant. They also beat the shite out of MSU with GOAT coaching his first game.

off topic- they hired some guy named Bob Stoops to be DC the next year and it worked out quite nicely.
Posted by Globetrotter747
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Posted on 1/8/22 at 9:06 am to
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The 1995 Nebraska Cornhuskers were far and away the best team that played that year - and it wasn't even close. Florida had been just as dominant in the regular season as Nebraska had and they were run out of the stadium by the Cornhuskers to the tune of 62-24.

Matchups matter.

Nebraska’s kryptonite was great front play on defense, which Oklahoma, Miami and FSU had in spades for most of the Osborne era. Nobody Nebraska played in 1995 was as loaded upfront as the teams that bullied them for pretty much all of Osborne’s tenure.

Playing opponents less equipped to stop their offensive style had at least as much to do with their dominance as Nebraska simply being better than were in Osborne’s other years.
Posted by RollTide1987
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Posted on 1/8/22 at 9:51 am to
You still don't get it. You don't judge a team by how they may or may not have performed or matched up against teams in the past or future. That's impossible. The rules of the game change and so too does the style of play. You take what they did against the opponents they faced. Kansas State was the #1 defense in all of college football in 1995. They also had the best rushing defense of anyone in that season and were the last major college football team to shut out three straight opponents. Nebraska ran ALL over them and crushed them by a score of 49-25. It was 42-6 in the third quarter when they began taking the starters out. A third of the points Kansas State's defense allowed that season were scored on them by Nebraska.
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Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 1/8/22 at 9:58 am to
The biggest factor is that opposing teams knew what was coming at them and still could not stop it.
Posted by Globetrotter747
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Posted on 1/8/22 at 10:35 am to
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You still don't get it. You don't judge a team by how they may or may not have performed or matched up against teams in the past or future. That's impossible. The rules of the game change and so too does the style of play. You take what they did against the opponents they faced.

It’s not that simple.

Roger Federer has 20 grand slam tennis titles. Only one of those is a French Open title. That’s because Federer always struggled against Rafael Nadal’s heavy topspin and defense. The one time Federer won the title was in 2009 when Nadal was eliminated earlier and he didn’t have to face him. Federer didn’t win the title because he was any better than previous years. He just didn’t have the face the player who gave his style the most problems.

Similarly, 1995 Nebraska didn’t have to face a defensive front loaded with all-americans like they usually had to with Switzer, Johnson and Bowden. Defense was how you beat those Nebraska teams.

It makes a difference. Makes a difference only playing 12 games too. Without conference championship games UGA would have just slaughtered Michigan for the national title, finished undefeated, and would be an all-time great. But they had to play a conference championship.

That Nebraska team was great, but they unquestionably had an easier road than today’s teams and most of Osborne’s teams.
This post was edited on 1/8/22 at 10:37 am
Posted by RollTide1987
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Posted on 1/8/22 at 10:44 am to
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Roger Federer has 20 grand slam tennis titles. Only one of those is a French Open title. That’s because Federer always struggled against Rafael Nadal’s heavy topspin and defense. The one time Federer won the title was in 2009 when Nadal was eliminated earlier and he didn’t have to face him. Federer didn’t win the title because he was any better than previous years. He just didn’t have the face the player who gave his style the most problems.


You just compared an individual sport, where a player can play for 15-20 years, to a team sport where players are constantly rotating in and out of the program and the sport itself is constantly evolving with innovations and rule changes. Every season is its own beast, which is why you have to judge individual teams in a vacuum and compare them relative to the competition they faced that season. You can’t say 1995 Nebraska would have struggled against 1985 Oklahoma or 1991 Miami because there’s just no way of knowing.
This post was edited on 1/8/22 at 10:47 am
Posted by whowasbert
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Posted on 1/8/22 at 10:47 am to
It wouldn’t have mattered if Nebraska had to play 15 or 20 games that season. No team was touching them.
Posted by Streelman
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Posted on 1/8/22 at 11:02 am to
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They were called for holding zero times
if this happened in Alabamas season
Posted by Globetrotter747
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Posted on 1/8/22 at 11:56 am to
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You can’t say 1995 Nebraska would have struggled against 1985 Oklahoma or 1991 Miami because there’s just no way of knowing.

It just makes for good discussion, which is the point of a message board.

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It wouldn’t have mattered if Nebraska had to play 15 or 20 games that season. No team was touching them.

Define “touching them.” A 3-8 Washington State team played them to two TD’s in Lincoln.
Posted by Cfrobel
Member since Nov 2019
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Posted on 1/8/22 at 1:51 pm to
Definitely their worst game, but were up 28-7 going into the 4th. They wasted carries with Damon Benning before Ahman Green took over, gave up some big plays on D, lost three fumbles but still rushed for 428 yards.
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
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Posted on 1/8/22 at 1:54 pm to
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(and likely better than their title team in 96).

Nah, it took that Fiesta Bowl shellacking to finally make Spurrier care as much about defense so he went out and got Bob Stoops.
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
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Posted on 1/8/22 at 1:56 pm to
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That Nebraska team was great, but they unquestionably had an easier road than today’s teams and most of Osborne’s teams.

Well that's dumb considering they smashed 4 teams who finished in the top 10. And here's what the playoff would've probably been:

#1 Nebraska vs #4 Tennessee (who gave up 62 to UF)
#2 UF vs #3 Northwestern

Posted by RollTide1987
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Posted on 1/8/22 at 2:05 pm to
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A 3-8 Washington State team played them to two TD’s in Lincoln.


The score was 28-7 and 35-14 at various points in the game. And that was quite literally the only "bad" game they played all season. Their second worst game that year was a 37-0 win over Oklahoma in the last game of the season. They played and defeated four teams that finished in the AP Top 10 by an average score of 49-18.
Posted by GentleJackJones
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Posted on 1/8/22 at 2:17 pm to
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he score was 28-7 and 35-14 at various points in the game. And that was quite literally the only "bad" game they played all season. Their second worst game that year was a 37-0 win over Oklahoma in the last game of the season. They played and defeated four teams that finished in the AP Top 10 by an average score of 49-18


Yup. But hey, 2020 Alabama isn’t that good. They didn’t play 2001 Miami or 2019 LSU in Moscow, Russia.
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 1/8/22 at 2:52 pm to
2019 LSU beat 5 top 10 teams

They also have back to back receivers in the nfl break the receiving record, the QB is going to finish 3rd in the mvp race his second year, one of their corners is top 5 in the nfl, multiple starting lineman and linebackers as well

Sorry, they blew by 95 Nebraska and 01 Miami. They are the spawn of those two teams
Posted by RollTide1987
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Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 1/8/22 at 3:00 pm to
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2019 LSU beat 5 top 10 teams


Average Margin of Victory Against Top 10 Teams:

2019 LSU: 19.8 points
2020 Alabama: 22.5 points
1995 Nebraska: 31 points

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They also have back to back receivers in the nfl break the receiving record, the QB is going to finish 3rd in the mvp race his second year, one of their corners is top 5 in the nfl, multiple starting lineman and linebackers as well


Irrelevant.

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Sorry, they blew by 95 Nebraska and 01 Miami.


They definitely blew by 2001 Miami. That team is fondly remembered because of all the talent it put into the pros. They struggled against Boston College and Virginia Tech while also playing an unworthy Nebraska team in the Rose Bowl that wasn't even ranked #2 in the AP or the Coaches Poll.
This post was edited on 1/8/22 at 3:06 pm
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 1/8/22 at 3:03 pm to
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2019 LSU: 19.8 points
1995 Nebraska: 31 points

im sorry, but beating 5 top 10 teams by 20 is jut as good or better than beating 4 by 31. You are showing you are simply dominant either way

I think lsus pro success jolts them last Nebraska
This post was edited on 1/8/22 at 3:04 pm
Posted by moontigr
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Posted on 1/8/22 at 3:06 pm to
No offense but didn't LSU struggle against Bama & Auburn? Nebraska didn't struggle that season, ever.
Posted by moontigr
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Posted on 1/8/22 at 3:08 pm to
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I think lsus pro success jolts them last Nebraska



Pro success has nothing to do with CFB.
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