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re: 14 year old Ruston freshman in rough shape from heat stroke

Posted on 8/15/26 at 6:39 pm to
Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 8/15/26 at 6:39 pm to
I don't think anybody knows until he starts rehab. But considering he wasn't expected to live out the first week this is movement in the right direction..

I've been following the progress of a kid on Instagram who was in a terrible dirt bike accident. He was essentially comatose a few months ago and now he's walking with help and can communicate. He's not back to where he was before the accident and may never, but to have gotten as far as he has is amazing. Therapists really work miracles in a lot of cases.
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 8/15/26 at 8:10 pm to
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The worst case of heat stroke I saw in HS (in Houston) was a healthy kid who was really pushing himself and going running on his own in the morning before 2-a-days.

But, plenty of people do have undiagnosed conditions at that age.


I agree with some stuff that was pointed out earlier. These kids drink the energy drinks and eat like crap, then go out in the heat. They put junk in their bodies that we didn't have back in the day
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 8/16/26 at 4:16 pm to
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I agree with some stuff that was pointed out earlier. These kids drink the energy drinks and eat like crap, then go out in the heat. They put junk in their bodies that we didn't have back in the day
we were also much more acclimated to heat - 70s/80s kid here
Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 8/16/26 at 8:51 pm to
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we were also much more acclimated to heat - 70s/80s kid here


Yeah, it's nothing listed in the last 2 posts. It's because of turf. The turf is 30 degrees hotter than anything you practiced on in the 70s/80s.
Posted by chinese58
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Posted on 8/21/26 at 8:43 am to


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This post was edited on 8/21/26 at 8:44 am
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
25426 posts
Posted on 8/21/26 at 5:27 pm to
Good grief, this is terrible. Have two gs on that team. Ugh. What I've been told to do IMMEDIATELY is to put ice on the left side of neck, wet down, and then over the head and then heart. If you have enough ice you cover the entire body, but keep the ice on the neck in close contact, especially over the head. You gotta get that brain cooled down.
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Think I'd have a freaking covered ice bath near the field anytime temp was over 90 degrees.

IDK what the difference between the kids nowadays and the old days, but we always had kids passing out or throwing up at practice. And practices lasted a lot longer and we ran a lot more in full pads. Of course, most of us were skinny and stayed outside all day. IDK.

Prayers sent.
This post was edited on 8/21/26 at 5:29 pm
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
25426 posts
Posted on 8/21/26 at 5:29 pm to
This happened in June.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 8/21/26 at 5:59 pm to
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And practices lasted a lot longer and we ran a lot more in full pads. Of course, most of us were skinny and stayed outside all day. IDK.


And we didn't eat a ton of processed food, drink energy drinks and soft drinks all day
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
46153 posts
Posted on 8/21/26 at 6:55 pm to
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And practices lasted a lot longer and we ran a lot more in full pads. Of course, most of us were skinny and stayed outside all day. IDK. And we didn't eat a ton of processed food, drink energy drinks and soft drinks all day


I don’t mean for this to sound dismissive or anything like that because I don’t mean it that way. However, as an MD I would imagine that multiple risk factors came into play for this to happen because it’s the most extreme case of nonfatal heat stroke that I have heard about. Drinking stuff other than water, genetic predisposition for abnormal muscle breakdown in response to stress, the heat, humidity, and some other factors were involved. It’s a miracle that he is alive.
Posted by TheDeathValley
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2010
20923 posts
Posted on 8/21/26 at 7:03 pm to
A bit off topic but is ACH that much better than CHNO that they flew him several hundred miles away?
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
46153 posts
Posted on 8/21/26 at 7:36 pm to
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A bit off topic but is ACH that much better than CHNO that they flew him several hundred miles away?


He was in shock with multiple systems organ failure. The protocol is to transfer to the closest facility with an open bed and the specialist care needed. He was transferred to ACH from Shreveport which is closer to Little Rock than New Orleans.

ETA: At least that’s how it is for my adult patients who I have to transfer to another facility for a higher level of care.
This post was edited on 8/21/26 at 7:50 pm
Posted by MikeD
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
8682 posts
Posted on 8/21/26 at 9:18 pm to
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It's because of turf. The turf is 30 degrees hotter than anything you practiced on in the 70s/80s.


100% this. Until you walk onto a turf with rubber infill field in the middle of the summer with sunlight on the turf, you can’t understand how much hotter the fields are.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
35807 posts
Posted on 8/22/26 at 1:35 pm to
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quote:
It's because of turf. The turf is 30 degrees hotter than anything you practiced on in the 70s/80s.


100% this. Until you walk onto a turf with rubber infill field in the middle of the summer with sunlight on the turf, you can’t understand how much hotter the fields are.
newer turfs are significanlty cooler than older turfs, especially the ones designed not to have as much or different infills,
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 8/23/26 at 1:52 am to
I believe his dad lives in Little Rock too.
Posted by nola tiger lsu
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 8/23/26 at 10:18 am to
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Many kids are not acclimated to heat like my age group was.

Poor hydration and or diet leading up to said day.


It is also on average hotter on any given practice day
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
35807 posts
Posted on 8/23/26 at 1:28 pm to
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quote:
Many kids are not acclimated to heat like my age group was.

Poor hydration and or diet leading up to said day.


It is also on average hotter on any given practice day


Dates of scrimmages over the years and high temps of those days.... 1980 still the mac daddy. The hotter on any given day doesn't hold as much water at you think.

BR high temp august 22 1980 100F
august 22 1990 95
2000 97, 2010 97, 2020 98 and 2026 99

Many coaches have tracked their practice/workout temps for years... Including a friend of mine that has been doing it since 1979.

And from a discussing this with a lawyer that is representing a program that is being proactive with defending / protecting themselves.


This post was edited on 8/23/26 at 1:33 pm
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
54366 posts
Posted on 8/23/26 at 1:43 pm to
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it truly is heat stroke and not an underlying condition, how does this even happen any more?

Settle down, Karen,..
Posted by Ralph_Wiggum
Sugarland
Member since Jul 2005
11233 posts
Posted on 8/23/26 at 1:44 pm to
I agree. Why start practice and games for teens when it's so hot outside and with the humidity, 86 is hot enough for a kid to go into heat stroke. It's not just having enough water, what you eat and conditioning. Some days it's just too hot and humid and some kids really exert themselves or in reality work way too hard to keep up with kids who are bigger, stronger, and faster.

I've seen kids who are slower and weaker who make up for it by working way too hard and they over-heat.

Plus, do games have to start in August? I mean how many regular season games do you need for high school. Many states in the North play only 9 regular season games a year. In the South, you can play 2 games in late September, 4 in October and 3 in November and start playoffs in late November. Nine regular seasons are enough for high school kids. You don't need anymore to prove you deserve a scholarship for the SEC.

In some states the high school championships are thanksgiving weekend or first weekend of December.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
55545 posts
Posted on 8/23/26 at 2:44 pm to
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Plus, do games have to start in August? I mean how many regular season games do you need for high school. Many states in the North play only 9 regular season games a year. In the South, you can play 2 games in late September, 4 in October and 3 in November and start playoffs in late November. Nine regular seasons are enough for high school kids. You don't need anymore to prove you deserve a scholarship for the SEC. In some states the high school championships are thanksgiving weekend or first weekend of December.


Louisiana starts late compared to most states… we’re just having scrimmages this past week, jamborees next week, and a lot of the rest of the country played actual games (a week before any college and 3 weeks before the NFL starts)
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
35807 posts
Posted on 8/23/26 at 6:59 pm to
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Plus, do games have to start in August? I mean how many regular season games do you need for high school. Many states in the North play only 9 regular season games a year. In the South, you can play 2 games in late September, 4 in October and 3 in November and start playoffs in late November. Nine regular seasons are enough for high school kids. You don't need anymore to prove you deserve a scholarship for the SEC.

In some states the high school championships are thanksgiving weekend or first weekend of December.
games don't start in August....

school employees don't want to be working over christmas holidays - I saw that first hand covid year when season started later.....


HS football isn't about getting an SEC scholly...... 9 games up north is due to..... ICEY weather.
This post was edited on 8/23/26 at 7:01 pm
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