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XOM at Four Month Low

Posted on 8/25/20 at 12:30 pm
Posted by skewbs
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 8/25/20 at 12:30 pm
I'm assuming most think XOM is a buy at this level - ie. just under $41/share. Outside of the big drop in March when the entire market fell, this is the lowest it's been in quite a while. Wondering if this recent downward trend will continue further. Interested to hear others thoughts who may be closer to the O&G industry.
This post was edited on 8/25/20 at 12:31 pm
Posted by itsbigmikey
NASHVILLE
Member since Aug 2018
363 posts
Posted on 8/25/20 at 12:38 pm to
I would agree. That dividend is so nice... Might pull the trigger today
Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
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82024 posts
Posted on 8/25/20 at 12:45 pm to
And out of the Dow :(
This post was edited on 8/25/20 at 12:46 pm
Posted by Covingtontiger77
Member since Dec 2015
10240 posts
Posted on 8/25/20 at 12:48 pm to
Chevron is the play in O&G. Their balance sheet is far superior to any in its class. Plus the dividend is sacrosanct. The executive board would lay off their own mothers before it touched the dividend- about 6-7% annually.

Posted by skewbs
Member since Apr 2008
2003 posts
Posted on 8/25/20 at 12:49 pm to
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And out of the Dow :(


Yea my notification was that is the reason it's down roughly 3% today.
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11096 posts
Posted on 8/25/20 at 12:58 pm to
Wait until the forced selling occurs when they get removed from the DOW
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
57210 posts
Posted on 8/25/20 at 1:17 pm to
Why were they removed from the Dow? What does this mean for current stockholders?
Posted by TunaTigers
Nola
Member since Dec 2007
5352 posts
Posted on 8/25/20 at 1:33 pm to
quote:

Why It Matters: The iPhone maker is one of the constituents of the DJIA index and the company’s stock split decision could bring down the index weightage on the Global Industry Classification Standard (GICS) IT sector. With the new additions, S&P Dow Jones hopes to offset this reduction and remove company overlap in the index.


LINK

Not sure what it means to current stock holders. Not as much exposure in funds that only track the DOW?
Posted by skewbs
Member since Apr 2008
2003 posts
Posted on 8/25/20 at 1:34 pm to
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Wait until the forced selling occurs when they get removed from the DOW


Good point wutang. I'm assuming it's b/c most of the ETF's tracking the DOW will sell XOM? Any idea on when this will happen?
Posted by barry
Location, Location, Location
Member since Aug 2006
50342 posts
Posted on 8/25/20 at 2:06 pm to
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Why were they removed from the Dow? What does this mean for current stockholders?



Nothing

The dow is an antiquated, pointless index.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54752 posts
Posted on 8/25/20 at 2:12 pm to
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That dividend is so nice.


They're gutting the company to preserve the dividend...might not end well...or div eventually gets cut.
Posted by 3D
NJ
Member since Sep 2013
1025 posts
Posted on 8/25/20 at 2:40 pm to
XOM has been dead money for me for 7 years (even with the dividend reinvested). Electric cars, solar, maybe gas is going the way of the dinosaur
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58123 posts
Posted on 8/25/20 at 3:36 pm to
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They're gutting the company to preserve the dividend...might not end well...or div eventually gets cut.



This is what I would be concerned with. Their competitors have slashed their dividends to help better weather the storm.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
30566 posts
Posted on 8/25/20 at 3:41 pm to
Dividend is at severe risk, IMO. All other companies cutting
This post was edited on 8/25/20 at 3:42 pm
Posted by barry
Location, Location, Location
Member since Aug 2006
50342 posts
Posted on 8/25/20 at 3:45 pm to
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They're gutting the company to preserve the dividend...might not end well...or div eventually gets cut.


Exactly and they should be reinvesting that capital to evolve the company, but it is the most old school rigid company in O&G. Think IBM.
Posted by LSUtigerME
Walker, LA
Member since Oct 2012
3795 posts
Posted on 8/25/20 at 4:47 pm to
I know it may be seen as a buy, but I’m strongly considering selling at a loss to offset some gains taken earlier this year.

I’m at a 50% loss right now, including dividend reinvestment.

XOM is struggling to preserve the dividend and weather the COVID demand market.
Posted by FLObserver
Jacksonville
Member since Nov 2005
14454 posts
Posted on 8/25/20 at 5:49 pm to
i bought this at 41 like 5 months ago. This stock has done nothing. i sold for a small lose just to get rid of. If you got 3 or 4 years maybe its a buy.
Posted by Texas Tea 123
Member since Sep 2017
207 posts
Posted on 8/25/20 at 5:50 pm to
XOM has dividend'ed and capex'ed their way into dangerous territory.

They will literally do anything to not cut that dividend.

Do you know how many holders count on that for income?

Warning - cyclical commodity businesses should not be bought for dividends.

XOM is a huge value trap in my opninion.

There are better O&G companies to own for exposure to that sector, in my opinion - CVX for a mega cap; COP/EOG/PXD for a large cap; FANG/PE/CXO/HES for a mid/large cap.
This post was edited on 8/25/20 at 5:51 pm
Posted by Skeezer
Member since Apr 2017
2296 posts
Posted on 8/25/20 at 5:58 pm to
Chevron is more to my liking. Better financial shape.
Posted by Texas Tea 123
Member since Sep 2017
207 posts
Posted on 8/25/20 at 6:58 pm to
XOM's 2010s:

-Spend $250B on capex
-Spend $50B on upstream acquisitions, mostly chasing shale
-Repurchase $50B+ stock at all time highs (2011-2015)
-Purchase at least 10 private jets
-Pay execs millions and millions and millions of dollars
-Under perform S&P 500 by a million percent
This post was edited on 8/25/20 at 7:08 pm
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