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Why is the stock market rallying right now?

Posted on 2/24/24 at 8:44 am
Posted by bayou choupique
the banks of bayou choupique
Member since Oct 2014
1818 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 8:44 am
S&P at all time high

I just don’t understand. High employment, uncertain presidential election year, high interest rates, record inflation. But the stocks are trending the highest ever.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84762 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 8:58 am to
Interest rates trending lower plus the largest companies in the world are making insane amounts of money and they drive much of the market.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123854 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 9:02 am to
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High employment
Posted by KWL85
Member since Mar 2023
1135 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 9:19 am to
just don’t understand. High employment, uncertain presidential election year, high interest rates, record inflation. But the stocks are trending the highest ever.
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Your interest rate and inflation statements are no longer true. Both are trending down from last year.

Business is good, especially for large cap. Look at the strength from big guys like Walmart, Costco, Amazon, Microsoft, and Nvidia. 2nd half of the year will be hard pressed to stay this strong overall, but we are riding right now.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80117 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 9:29 am to
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Interest rates trending lower


I thought mortgages just moved above 7% again?


Nonetheless, I don't understand the stock market, which is why I don't day trade
Posted by Shepherd88
Member since Dec 2013
4582 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 9:32 am to
The markets are always forward looking trying to predict what the economy will look like in ~6 months time. You can’t judge the markets based on current economy and vice versa. This is also why it’s so hard to time the market bc it is forward looking.
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
19256 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 9:36 am to
They are manipulating things to prop Joe up.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90552 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 9:40 am to
I’d argue due to inflation that stocks are the only thing currently that can yield a higher return than the inflation rate.

Yes inflation is slowing but during the highest points many people racked up debt and need to pay it down.

Also capital is expensive so you see less money going towards risky startups and more money towards established companies and blue chip stocks. Add in record profits in blue chips yielding good dividends and it makes stocks a good investment currently. We are seeing a 15% return on our portfolio currently
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 9:44 am to
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High employment
High employment is a good sign for the economy.
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uncertain presidential election year
Every year is uncertain.
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high interest rates
More like "normal interest rates" with a prospect to go lower soon.
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record inflation
Not even close to a record. Inflation exceeded 10% during the Carter presidency. 3.3% today is a problem but NOT a record.
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I just don’t understand.
Obviously...
Posted by SulphursFinest
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2015
8732 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 9:45 am to
What I don’t understand even more is the older guys at work telling me they can’t retire because Biden crashed their 401ks
Posted by go ta hell ole miss
Member since Jan 2007
13621 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 9:58 am to
Anticipation of lowering rates. A whole lot of money was on the sidelines or in money markets making five percent and now want into the market that has been exploding to the upside. Inflation is awful thing, but the great resignation, govt handouts to the middle class that did not need it and hyper wage growth during that time has helped prop up the consumer and keep the economy going strong.

The only thing holding the market back is the continued prediction of it crashing. Even high interest rates have not been an issue. It has really proven what so many have said all along, rates were held artificially low and this economy has proven it can handle regular rates in stride. Inflation adjusted returns since 2008 are at 7.5%, so over a longer period, runs like this are just averaging out the market to expected historical type returns.

This post was edited on 2/24/24 at 2:52 pm
Posted by Twenty 49
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2014
18749 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 10:39 am to
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the older guys at work telling me they can’t retire because Biden crashed their 401ks


They probably contributed the minimum and, rather than blame themselves, blame Joe.

Reminds me of a relative who owed his job to the union defending him. He nonetheless talked bad about the union, and he convinced himself that Ronald Reagan loved unions and Jimmy Carter hated them. Very confusing.
Posted by LSUShock
Kansas
Member since Jun 2014
4913 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 10:41 am to
Every restaurant, shopping mall, and bar is packed to the brim every week Thursday-Sunday. People keep talking about hard times and I see nothing driving around every week that suggest that. People spending money everywhere.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84762 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 10:41 am to
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They are manipulating things to prop Joe up.


Despite being false and frankly absurd, “they’re” not doing a very good job…


Posted by tigersmanager
Member since Jun 2010
7353 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 10:55 am to
you think a couple of months of good stock numbers makes up for 3 years of bad ones
Posted by Hookah
Member since Nov 2023
94 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 10:57 am to
Because businesses are making money.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58113 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 11:00 am to
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you think a couple of months of good stock numbers


Go back and start over if you think this has been just a couple of months
Posted by SulphursFinest
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2015
8732 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 11:04 am to
I think all time highs is great for a retirement account. Don’t be stupid
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
48466 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 11:08 am to
AI buzz, economy/earnings held up better than expected, inflation going down, anticipation of Fed cutting rates.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84762 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 11:19 am to
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you think a couple of months of good stock numbers makes up for 3 years of bad ones


VTI - a total stock market index - is up 36% over the last 3 years.
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