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Why is my lender pushing so hard for Conventional and 20% down?

Posted on 1/10/22 at 3:48 pm
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
139840 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 3:48 pm
In process of buying a home and my lender is dead set on 20 down. I thought 15 down was appropriate I know conventional has private insurance. But not sure what else it has.
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
80770 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 3:49 pm to
No PMI with 20%?
Posted by AUHighPlainsDrifter
South Carolina
Member since Sep 2017
3080 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 3:54 pm to
Don't know. You should ask your lender.
Posted by ItzMe1972
Member since Dec 2013
9796 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 3:58 pm to
Conventional usually refers to 30 year/ 20% down loan.

Maybe he's trying to save you on PMI.

But he should provide other options if you request them.
Posted by tigeralum06
Member since Oct 2007
2788 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 4:07 pm to
They are probably trying to keep you out of PMI and jumbo loan territory.
Posted by SalE
At the beach
Member since Jan 2020
2411 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 6:32 pm to
As one who was there, attempting to not re-visit 2007.
Posted by GEAUXT
Member since Nov 2007
29237 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 8:13 pm to
Sounds like your lender is giving you good advice
Posted by TigerDeBaiter
Member since Dec 2010
10262 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 8:55 pm to
Risk. Housing is a little inflated. The less that you owe, the less of a risk for them if you default. Simple as that
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25594 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 1:47 am to
No pmi, best rate pricing on your mortgage.

Do you want the lowest rate pricing? You seem to think he's trying to lead you to something bad.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73566 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 8:32 am to
Why dont you put down 3%?

MI with good credit is like 50 a month
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11096 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 8:39 am to
Show me the incentive and I will show you the outcome
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11096 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 9:38 am to
quote:

Risk. Housing is a little inflated. The less that you owe, the less of a risk for them if you default. Simple as that


I'm sorry but that is not how LO's operate. They care about their commissions, and that's about it. OP should ask for all available options and then make his decision instead of leaning on some LO for financial advice.
Posted by ColoradoAg03
Denver, CO
Member since Oct 2012
6149 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 9:46 am to
You can waive PMI now with 10.01% down, if you meet certain qualifications.
Posted by transcend
Austin, TX
Member since Aug 2013
4166 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 11:11 am to
With rates so low, that down payment money would better serve you in higher yield investments
Posted by ConfusedHawgInMO
Member since Apr 2014
3495 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 12:21 pm to
quote:

Why is my lender pushing so hard for Conventional and 20% down?



Because he/she is lazy and doesn't want to have to do as much work.
Posted by dovehunter
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2014
1217 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 9:06 pm to
Well regulators may be tightening up as they know the economy is in a perilous place. Your lender may have restrictions on what the institution will allow risk wise as well. This is a dangerous economy right now.
Posted by mortgagemanlc
Member since Jul 2020
53 posts
Posted on 1/12/22 at 1:51 pm to
That’s odd. You will likely receive a better deal doing 15% with PMI. Assuming you’re over 720 PMI would be about extremely cheap. Rate will be better with 15% over 20% because PMI protects the lender for 25-35% of the loan amount vs the 20% you’d put down.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25594 posts
Posted on 1/12/22 at 10:42 pm to
You are correct that MI protects 25% of the lenders collateral.

But rate sheets dont normally reflect better pricing at 15% down versus 20% down.

You are correct that many preferred risk underwriters have the best pricing at 65% ltv for cashout and 75% for rate/term or purchase (reflecting the preferred risk level with 25-35% equity).
Posted by ConfusedHawgInMO
Member since Apr 2014
3495 posts
Posted on 1/13/22 at 2:50 pm to
quote:

Well regulators may be tightening up as they know the economy is in a perilous place. Your lender may have restrictions on what the institution will allow risk wise as well.


Yeah that's along the lines of what I said. The loan officer doesn't want to mess with anything but a slam dunk and a 20% down deal might be more salable in this market than a higher LTV.
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